Eddie Hobbs: "We are now at Peak Oil"

[fiannafailure]

[quote=Kensington;1829399].

Im toom know what i am talking about. I have researched the issue extensivlely at an academic level.

Good to know

We know that wind power has serious limitations and will not become the major component of our fuel-mix in the foreseeable future. Some people think that we can run this country almost exclusively on wind in the next 20 or 30 years. They are being mislead and the CER and ESB national Grid have publically available reports that demonstate this.

Who is we, your credibility is diminishing fast, I assume you meant ESB networks, their job is to transport electricity, the CER is the regulator, who are studying the impact of renewables on an ongoing basis, the people I think you need to talk to about the grid, is EIRGRID

We also know that Bord Gais's opinion on our long-term gas security is incredibly optimistic. The British energy white paper says, in black and white, that they will be facing gas shortages in the next 15 to 20 years. So, what do we do then?

Our LNG plant may not be built for another 5 years and does the Government even have a plan to ensure we have access to shipments? No, they do not. The free-market will not be Ireland's friend in this regard.

I thought it was fianna fail's position that the corrib field will provide our gas needs for years

If one is being honest and aware of the situation, they must recognise that we need to go nuclear.

If you say so

[fiannafailure]

I heard Eddie Hobbs talking about this on another occasion - he was also pushing "Spirit of Ireland" for more than it was worth. I think he has just made a business decision to get into promoting renewables now that property has gone sideways.

Yes, we may well have reached peak oil. As food production depends heavily on oil this is a serious thing.

Everyone is welcome at S of I except geckko who would eat us out of house and home

[wombat]

I assume you meant ESB networks, their job is to transport electricity, the CER is the regulator, who are studying the impact of renewables on an ongoing basis, the people I think you need to talk to about the grid, is EIRGRID

Don't you love how simple it all is?

[fiannafailure]

[quote=Kensington;1829437]SPN,

I read that green pamphlet too, it's shoddy

It also happens to be accepted best practice worldwide to have a high percentage of spinning reserve available at seconds notice

I would love to build CHP plants, but we have got to be realistic. They would have to be powered by gas and we have got to move away from fossil fuels. Our supplies are not secure in the longterm.

Who told you CHP plants have to be gas powered, he fibbed

[fiannafailure]

don't you love how simple it all is?

yep

[fiannafailure]

Kensington
Craig Ventor has just announced the discovery of bacteria that digest coal and excrete methane, the plot thickens and gets more complicated everyday

[SPN]

SPN,

I read that green pamphlet too, it's shoddy.

One would not a backup plant. Nuclear is incredibly reliable and we will have gas plants anyway.

It would fit on our grid. What type are you refering to?

It would take about 10 years to go from the decsion to build one to it being operational. It would need to be built by the state, nuclear power is cheaper than offshore wind. Uranium supply would not be a problem, where are your sources that it will peak soon?

I would love to build CHP plants, but we have got to be realistic. They would have to be powered by gas and we have got to move away from fossil fuels. Our supplies are not secure in the longterm.

You aren't up to speed on the subject if you believe that lot of rubbish. So many errors of fact it isn't funny.

[Kensington]

fiannafailure,

I know very well who to speak to. You are just wrong, unfortuantely. Here, have a read of these.

http://www.eirgrid.com/media/2004%20...e%20above).pdf

http://www.cer.ie/cerdocs/cer03024.pdf

It is common knowledge that there is a limit to the amount of wind energy a grid can accomadate. We are the only country who appears to be ignoring that.

It also happens to be accepted best practice worldwide to have a high percentage of spinning reserve available at seconds notice

Ya, i know, so what?

Who told you CHP plants have to be gas powered, he fibbed

If we built alot of CHP plants as suggested, they would have to be powered by gas. Think about it.

I thought it was fianna fail's position that the corrib field will provide our gas needs for years

They fibbed.

[fiannafailure]

Kensington, did you happen to read the dates on those reports, look forward to the next ones.

What is the common must have, for both nuclear and wind power, without which, neither is a commercial proposition ?

[Kensington]

SPN,

best practice indicates that the biggest plant on a grid should generate no more than 10% to 15% of the total. Ireland's grid is now around 9000 MW. CANDU make very popular 700 MW reactors. They are getting smaller all the time.

Check the IEA's position on Uranium resources and, for that matter, the British white paper in energy. You will be unpleasently surprised. We would only need 20 tonnes a year. We could easily get one large shipment which could last us a decade.

We would not even have to worry about the waste.

Global Nuclear Energy Partnership - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia