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Thread: Eddie Hobbs: "We are now at Peak Oil"

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    Frankly this makes the case for incineration for energy more compelling; every potential source of alternative energy should be availed of.

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    Eddie of Brendan Investments?

    Eddie couldnt spot 'peak' property and now I take it he must be a geologist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kensington View Post
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    It's not really. Production is going to increase dramatically anyway and there is enough for at least a centurym probably alot longer. We would have no problem securing enough. We will have to go nuclear anyway, if we plan for it now, we might be ok, but if we delay, we will be at the end of a long line.
    I will not argue against nuclear, but I actually know what I am talking about when I say, it is not as clear cut as you think, please do a little research before you make up your mind.
    And being reasonably well informed, I disagree that we have to go the nuke route, but it is an option, an expensive one, but an option.
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    There's a whiff of opportunism about this alright. Coinciding as it does with the bank and property crisis fatigue that must be due to set in any day now.
    Last edited by Wendy; 1st July 2009 at 09:29 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fiannafailure View Post
    And being reasonably well informed, I disagree that we have to go the nuke route, but it is an option, an expensive one, but an option.
    I don't want to get into an argument about nuclear as it seems to be a closed issue in Ireland but what do you think should be done about Moneypoint. It seems to be the item that environmentalists want to ignore in the hope that something will turn up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jock_the_Waster View Post
    Eddie of Brendan Investments?

    Eddie couldnt spot 'peak' property and now I take it he must be a geologist?


    eddie at work

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    I saw an interesting documentary recently about how Cuba adapted to the situation when it's oil supplies were curtailed to an enormous degree, almost overnight, with the collapse of the Soviet Union. Alot to be learned from their experience.

    Whether there is 50 years, 70 years or a hundred years left is a moot point. It is going to end and in the relatively near future. Those who think we can blissfully carry on forever the way we have been are truly deluded.
    Such a parcel of rogues in a nation!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat View Post
    I don't want to get into an argument about nuclear as it seems to be a closed issue in Ireland but what do you think should be done about Moneypoint. It seems to be the item that environmentalists want to ignore in the hope that something will turn up
    Wombat you certainly know how to ask a direct question, It will be next to impossible to close moneypoint within 10 years, it is the bedrock of our grid and if we want to replace it, we have got to get ourselves a real national energy policy that reflects real life. There are replacement tech's available and the S of I proposal in its entirety not bits and pieces allied to modern CCGT gas plants are the medium solution, but both require that national plan, no tax payers money, just the plan. And Quickly
    Regards, Pat Gill

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kensington View Post
    The Government has to build at least one nuclear plant and it must start immediately. Hopefully it would be ready for 2020. Money should be moved from renewables if needs be. Wind power cannot work long-term anyway without nuclear as a base-load producer.
    We'd actually have to build two Nukes, otherwise what would we do when one of them is down?

    More importantly though, Nukes cost too much, take too long to build, wouldn't fit on our grid, are not commercially viable (would require massive taxpayer subsidies), and we would still be relying on foreign sources of Uranium (which will peak very quick if lots of new Nukes are built).


    On the other hand, a network of biomass CHP plants would cost a fraction to build, would produce cheaper electricity, would build resilience into the grid, would benefit local economies by keeping the money in the economies, and require no subsidies.



    Someone else mentioned incineration: After peak oil, the amount of plastics we can produce will diminish, so the waste stream will decline massively in terms of energy content. Then what?
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    The clowns running this country couldn't even see a property bubble that burst 2 years ago , peak oil and how we prepare for it is way beyond them.
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