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    Quote Originally Posted by Geckko View Post
    Why do proponents of the Dangerous Climate Change Hypothesis keep insisting on:

    Lying (it hasn't been warming since the start of the decade)
    you are the one who is lying. (if it was someone else i would give the benefit of the doubt, but you have been corrected on this point so many times you can only be deliberately lying at this stage.)

    The climate is warming.
    All you are doing is taking 1998, a stastical outlier due to an el nino event as the base line, and then falsly claiming that temperatures haven't exceeded that level since. In fact, global average temperatures have been climbing consistently and continue to do so, at a rate that is accelerating alarmingly quickly.



    You are an intellectual fraud, you refuse to debate honestly, and instead choose statistics and 'facts' that you think support your argument, and quote them out of context and with conclusions that they just don't support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geckko View Post
    Everything is consistent with the Dangerous Climate Change hypothesis.

    It's just likel playing a game with a 5 year old who, no matter what happens, wins because they have introduced a new rule.

    It is ludicrous at this stage.
    this has to be the most pathetic thread on politics.ie (and i include the ufo and ghosts thread in that.

    The op linked to a bbc report that said categorically that the climate trend is still upwards, but that this year may a bit behind because of a regular el nina event, and the usual suspects conclude "global warming has been disproven!!!!"

    the other link is to a short blog that has zero evidence to support its fraudulent claim that the planet hasn't warmed since 1998. it's pathetic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akrasia View Post
    this has to be the most pathetic thread on politics.ie (and i include the ufo and ghosts thread in that.

    The op linked to a bbc report that said categorically that the climate trend is still upwards, but that this year may a bit behind because of a regular el nina event, and the usual suspects conclude "global warming has been disproven!!!!"

    the other link is to a short blog that has zero evidence to support its fraudulent claim that the planet hasn't warmed since 1998. it's pathetic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EarlyBird View Post
    Do you need another ring?. Religious scumbag.
    what are you talking about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akrasia View Post
    what are you talking about?
    What would you rather talk about?, the Climate Change Crisis or the Global Warming Crisis?.
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    another genius contribution from the idiot brigade
    oh by the way, I take back my previous remark about this being the most pathetic thread on the site, the Gun Nerd thread is much more pathetic
    Last edited by Akrasia; 20th June 2009 at 10:54 PM.
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    Interesting article in the latest new scientist magazine, re James Lovelocks gaia theory, it seems we are doomed anyway if you take a longer term view, and who the hell cares if the planet is warming or cooling, the fact is, the human species cannot breathe co2 and sulphides and all the other assorted nasties we put into the athmosphere and still be good at football or walking or even thinking about sex.
    Regards, Pat Gill

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akrasia View Post
    another genius contribution from the idiot brigade
    oh by the way, I take back my previous remark about this being the most pathetic thread on the site, the Gun Nerd thread is much more pathetic

    Please don't hurt my feelings, I haven't stocked up on Kleenex...

    Just for you:

    Global warming/climate change isn't the greatest fraud played on mankind.

    Polar bears can't swim and Al Gore is an altruistic good guy .. Feel better now?.


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    Quote Originally Posted by EarlyBird View Post
    Please don't hurt my feelings, I haven't stocked up on Kleenex...

    Just for you:

    Global warming/climate change isn't the greatest fraud played on mankind.

    Polar bears can't swim and Al Gore is an altruistic good guy .. Feel better now?.


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    So taking your complete post into account, is it still good to be creating a poisonous atmosphere in which to live in
    Regards, Pat Gill

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    According to the article originally linked to: “But this year's temperatures would still be way above the average - and we would soon exceed the record year of 1998 because of global warming induced by greenhouse gases.”

    It does not seem to support the assertion that global warming is not a problem.

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