Spiritofireland.org - suggests energy independence in five years and much more

[fiannafailure]

I really am going now, but the post from dios, reminded me of another link and witty riposte

Wind Map of Western Europe

Wouldn't be surprised if Scotland really starts an independence movement, sometime soon.

[fiannafailure]

More funny is the inability of people to follow up a quoted report.


In am unrealistic fashion by saying that 5 years is the timeline for energy independence the former of which is not possible at this stage according to their own figures as calculated by multiple users and the latter of which is untrue,

Depends on the amount of independence you want, at present we have F... All

No debate on environmental impact? Here is a question. The flooding of a u vally (probably grassland) will reduce the amount of CO2 uptake if nothing else. Of course there is also the wildlife habitational aspect without even getting into more mundane concerns such as valley sealing.

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We did actually think of that all by ourselves, and are teasing you by not saying what our range of counter measures are

[cactusflower]

www.windaction.org | E.ON Netz Wind Report 2005

E.ON 2005 report. Interesting reading.

It is riven, but its from an anti-wind site. Its also five years old.

Do you think the EU windfacts site I linked to is neutral ?

[cactusflower]

5 years is hopelessly unrealistic. Site assessment, design, EIA and planning would tale several years. That's excluding finding and acquiring the site.

[riven]

It is riven, but its from an anti-wind site. Its also five years old.

Do you think the EU windfacts site I linked to is neutral ?

It is from an anti wind site but the report is from a pro wind company (E.ON have the largest stake in German wind power I believe). I did not link the E.ON site as it did not come up in google first.

[riven]

Dios publications that I read from SEI which are what the interview was based upon.

SEI - Renewables Publications
for a list and a specific one to see where availability is not considered (there are others)

http://www.sei.ie/Publications/Renew...-Rpt-Final.pdf

[fiannafailure]

5 years is hopelessly unrealistic. Site assessment, design, EIA and planning would tale several years. That's excluding finding and acquiring the site.

Cactus,
Thats where most of S of I effort is focussed on

[fiannafailure]

Cactus,
Thats where most of S of I effort is focussed on

And it began some time ago

[Dios]

No enviromental impact I was reffering to was emmisions durign construction of turnines, power used during construction of turnines, same for materials used and their have been serious concerns regarding the carbon emmission resulting from their placement in bogs.

As opposed to the emissions of extracting, transporting (oil tankers, you want to look up what they use up just moving around), refining, processing, and eventually turning fossil fuels into electricity? If you're looking for free energy, I believe someone had a perpetual motion proposal earlier in the thread you might want to look into.

And indeed he has a point. Once you failed to address.

For someone who claims to be big into answers, you don't seem to read them when they are provided, lending more credence to the vapours theory.

And i have observed recently a group of people who will grab onto a project as the solution to all their ills despite it having no costings, no figures, and damn all information of any sort. This same group of people also seem incapable of any form of discussion that involves facts.

There have been nothing but facts heaped upon facts since the start of the discussion, that you want more is laudable, but really, you were very quick to start handing out accusations of snake oil salesmanship left, right and centre and then actually hounding people around forums like I don't know what when you didn't get what you wanted right now, which, lets face it, smacks of dawn handbaggery. Not to mention the strange bedfellows you seem to have acquired.

Dios publications that I read from SEI which are what the interview was based upon.

SEI - Renewables Publications
for a list and a specific one to see where availability is not considered (there are others)

http://www.sei.ie/Publications/Renew...-Rpt-Final.pdf

Not the interview, the post directly above yours, the one where it says that availability is not mornally considered as it is too small a factor.

[sparkey321]

And it began some time ago

Err not to be pushy but back to my last post.

Between you and SOI we now have three seperate prices per MW hour

€148, 5 cent and €55

Which is it.