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Especially when the planet is currently cooling. That's what the data actually shows.
You don't have science. You have 'models'. No, my scepticism (note spelling) is not assailed by models.
Especially when the planet is currently cooling. That's what the data actually shows.
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Without mathematics, all you have is superstition and blind faith - the characteristics of any religion.Originally Posted by ibis
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A lot of people, MORE in the known than you think we are. They may be wrong but I know where the safer bet lies.
Not necessarily. Only those industries which are no longer sustainable will die out.And we lose jobs and workers from more productive and profitable industries, private enterprises.
We haven't invaded any, but the US, Britain and Spain have. And why have they taken over the Middle east? It's to secure energy resources for the west, for you and me among there own populaces.What country have we invaded to guarantee our energy demands. Are you for real?!
thanks for the adviceThen you are free to invest your own savings in the upcoming "green" economy
Well then that's just one more thing that you DON'T want your tax money spent on. You'll survive.You're entitled to that. I personally DO mind my tax money being spent on it.
More economical than local, indigenous jobs and industry and more people with more money to spend in our economies and fuel independence for the nation? What school of economics did you go to?Because it would be more economical for us to do so??
OMIGOD 1TRILLION!!!! over 14 year.... And yes I can say with complete certainty that using less energy, WILL save you money!!! It's basic MATHEMATICS. However how much is affected by the price of the energy!1 trillion euro cost to taxpayers potentially. . . . you can't say with certainty there would be any savings.
What the hell does that have to do with my comment?Interdependance and trade between countries promotes peace in my opinion.
What makes you think I'm a socialist? If I'm talking absolute nonsense then please educate me. Show me a single nation which is using free market economics?Absolute nonsense - "there is no such thing as the free market". You're living in a socialist dreamworld mate, socialism failed - get over it !! East Germany, Cuba, North Korea, Soviet Union and its satellites - ALL sh*tholes mate, with NO political or economic freedom for the citizens..... come back to the real world.
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You're dead right that they may be wrong. That's why a 1 trillion euro price tag is ludicrous.
Rubbish. Labour in perfectly sustainable industries would shift to enterprises that would never have come into existence through private savings and investment because the cost and benefits would not be economical. Artificially high wages in this "green" sector would result from government investment in this area, attracting people away from perfectly sustainable enterprises.
You said in your previous post that "we" had invaded countries.... was just pointing out your mistake.
No problem.
I'm entitled to not want my tax money spent on something just like you're entitled to want your tax money spent on something. My post was only arguing my point that this particular expenditure was a gross waste of taxpayers money.
Yes. And the idea of Ireland being able to be able to provide for ourselves all the commodities, products and services without relying on other nations is just nonsense also.
A better one than you obviously.
Again, this is a very shortsighted view in my opinion. The goods and services that would be produced thanks to an extra 70-odd billion euro a year by private individuals and enterprises in the european economy would be far more beneficial than diverting it into a sector that people just don't currently value obviously. Peoples standard of living would improve, and the savings made in general by people may even reduce energy costs indirectly, we can't say for certain.
You were making a point about independence. I was pointing out how interdependence is not necessarily a bad thing.
You advocate the redistribution of wealth and government planning in the economy - you're a socialist!
Hong Kong is probably the best example:
Hong Kong - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Experts at Britain's top climate research centre have launched a blistering attack on scientific colleagues and journalists who exaggerate the effects of global warming.
'Apocalyptic predictions' mislead the public on climate change, say experts | Environment | guardian.co.uk
Dr. Vicky Pope says there is little evidence to support claims that Arctic ice has reached a tipping point and could disappear within a decade or so, as some reports have suggested. Summer ice extent in the Arctic, formed by frozen sea water, has collapsed in recent years, with ice extent in September last year 34% lower than the average since satellite measurements began in 1979.
global warming? do they have windows to look out of in goverment buildings. they prob have there back to the window with there bum up against a radiator. all they want is another way to tax us all. its blomming freezing everywhere with a summer of two weeks if we are lucky. pull the other one science boys, another scam for us to deal with.
Global warming denial in a nutshell = the natural reaction upon investigation of the "evidence".
"The perfect liberty they seek is the liberty of making slaves of other people." -- Abraham Lincoln
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Well, that makes much of geology and biology religion - of course, the Creationists would agree!
Never let the best be the enemy of the good.
Not very good at this propaganda thing, are you Ibis? Throwing in the Creationists to try to make it look like anyone who disagrees with your Global Warming Religion is not to be taken seriously?
All sciences have their core an element of mathematics. Measurement is a mathematical act.
Regards...jmcc
Climate science has an element of mathematics at its core. The models depend on mathematics. Just because it's too complicated to summarise in one post doesn't mean it isn't true. Prove mathematically that grass is green. Go on, prove it! If you can't prove grass is green in a one-line equation then I guess it isn't true.
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