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    IPCC scientists fudgeing data to push "Global Warming".

    OOOPS... It looks like the IPCCs corrupted "science" has been revealed again.

    The world has never seen such freezing heat

    By Christopher Booker
    Last Updated: 12:01am GMT 16/11/2008

    A surreal scientific blunder last week raised a huge question mark about the temperature records that underpin the worldwide alarm over global warming. On Monday, Nasa's Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS), which is run by Al Gore's chief scientific ally, Dr James Hansen, and is one of four bodies responsible for monitoring global temperatures, announced that last month was the hottest October on record.

    This was startling. Across the world there were reports of unseasonal snow and plummeting temperatures last month, from the American Great Plains to China, and from the Alps to New Zealand. China's official news agency reported that Tibet had suffered its "worst snowstorm ever". In the US, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration registered 63 local snowfall records and 115 lowest-ever temperatures for the month, and ranked it as only the 70th-warmest October in 114 years.

    So what explained the anomaly? GISS's computerised temperature maps seemed to show readings across a large part of Russia had been up to 10 degrees higher than normal. But when expert readers of the two leading warming-sceptic blogs, Watts Up With That and Climate Audit, began detailed analysis of the GISS data they made an astonishing discovery. The reason for the freak figures was that scores of temperature records from Russia and elsewhere were not based on October readings at all. Figures from the previous month had simply been carried over and repeated two months running.

    The error was so glaring that when it was reported on the two blogs - run by the US meteorologist Anthony Watts and Steve McIntyre, the Canadian computer analyst who won fame for his expert debunking of the notorious "hockey stick" graph - GISS began hastily revising its figures. This only made the confusion worse because, to compensate for the lowered temperatures in Russia, GISS claimed to have discovered a new "hotspot" in the Arctic - in a month when satellite images were showing Arctic sea-ice recovering so fast from its summer melt that three weeks ago it was 30 per cent more extensive than at the same time last year.

    A GISS spokesman lamely explained that the reason for the error in the Russian figures was that they were obtained from another body, and that GISS did not have resources to exercise proper quality control over the data it was supplied with. This is an astonishing admission: the figures published by Dr Hansen's institute are not only one of the four data sets that the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) relies on to promote its case for global warming, but they are the most widely quoted, since they consistently show higher temperatures than the others.
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    yep - known this for a while

    they want to impose a global carbon tax on the citizens of the world - that's where all this is heading - call it a tax for breathing.
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    sounds like stupid mistake
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    Quote Originally Posted by lostexpectation View Post
    sounds like stupid mistake

    If it was a mistake then it was an epic one, this is orchestrated deception.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KungFugazi View Post
    If it was a mistake then it was an epic one, this is orchestrated deception.
    I find that a bit farfetched

    Figures from the previous month had simply been carried over and repeated two months running.
    If they were trying to commit fraud I would imagine they might try and make up some numbers rater than simply copying and pasting the figures in from previous months.
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    'bout time...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhonda15 View Post
    they want to impose a global carbon tax on the citizens of the world - that's where all this is heading - call it a tax for breathing.
    are you serious?
    Who are 'they'? the crab people?


    Global warming conspiracy theorists are even supider than people who claim the moon landing is fake, at least there was a motive for that particular theory, with Climate 'skeptics' they have to invent a secret cabal of scientsts who want to tax us all to death. I mean its utterly utterly ridiculous. Even more ridiculous is the idea that governments want to impose taxes or limit the use of oil. Most governments have had to be dragged kicking and screaming towards the idea of any kind of carbon taxes or renewable energy initiatives.
    Actual morality is doing what is right regardless of what you're told. Religious morality is doing what you're told, regardless of if it's right.

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    Look i'm not denying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Akrasia View Post
    are you serious?
    Who are 'they'? the crab people?


    Global warming conspiracy theorists are even supider than people who claim the moon landing is fake, at least there was a motive for that particular theory, with Climate 'skeptics' they have to invent a secret cabal of scientsts who want to tax us all to death. I mean its utterly utterly ridiculous. Even more ridiculous is the idea that governments want to impose taxes or limit the use of oil. Most governments have had to be dragged kicking and screaming towards the idea of any kind of carbon taxes or renewable energy initiatives.
    Look i'm not denying that there is climate change but i'm not convinced it's anthromorphic - and i find it disturbing that many pro manmade global warming advocates won't even entertain the idea that the Gores of the world may be wrong. It's like a goddam religion already.

    Dinosaurs fossils have been found in the Artic regions - are you gonna tell me dinosaurs drove SUV's?!
    Well i for one am going to look at everything objectively and make up my own mind and not sheepishly swallow the climatologists flavour of the month theories and right now my instincts tell me we're not being given the full picture on this.
    ...yes Virginia there are many people is this world with nefarious agendas and i'm not gonna be suckered in.

    http://www.extremewisdom.com/?p=1285

    And for the record I support clean energy, less dependence on fossil fuels etc, etc because it makes sense and it's good for the environment - but don't push some bullsh$%t agenda on me.
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    "A surreal scientific blunder last week raised a huge question mark about the temperature records that underpin the worldwide alarm over global warming. On Monday, Nasa's Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS), which is run by Al Gore's chief scientific ally, Dr James Hansen, and is one of four bodies responsible for monitoring global temperatures, announced that last month was the hottest October on record."

    He made a specific announcement re it being the "hottest October on record". Now that it was proven to be among one of the coldest we will no doubt be told not to look at one month alone but to look at the trends over time, etc, etc!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel CNC View Post
    He made a specific announcement re it being the "hottest October on record". Now that it was proven to be among one of the coldest we will no doubt be told not to look at one month alone but to look at the trends over time, etc, etc!!
    Yes, the politicised machine driving the hype will shift the goalposts yet again, the spoon fed faithful won't even notice.

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