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    Quote Originally Posted by owedtojoy View Post
    SirCharles has already effectively demolished Stevenson's article,and if you bother to check the internet yourself, you would find his points have long been debunked. Further comment is superfluous.
    Ms Rebel obviously can only read stuff at the LaRouche website. She seems to be blind for anything else.
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    [QUOTE=SirCharles;4355010]Ms Rebel obviously can only read stuff at the LaRouche website. She seems to be blind for anything [Quote]

    The only thing worse than being blind is to have no vision--- Helen Keller
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    This mega-thread needs a bit of something to add to the length. Maybe work in a Catholic Church paedo angle into it somewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rebellin View Post

    The only thing worse than being blind is to have no vision--- Helen Keller
    Another climate change denier who lacks a sense of irony!
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    The USA is only a small part of the earth's surface, but it collects the most interesting statistics on weather and climate.

    From the graphic, the Texas Drought in now the costliest weather event in US history - greater than Hurricane Katrina. The year was also phenomenal for floods and tornadoes. Original here Denver Weather Blog | Brendan's Weather

    John Nielsen-Gammon, the Texas State Climatologist, reports a high probability (75%) of La Nina conditions this winter, meaning the drought will possibly persist into next year.

    • According to the latest US Drought Monitor, only 0.83% of Texas is in moderate drought.
    • Next the moderately good news: only 2.42% of Texas is in severe drought.
    • Not so good news: 8.88% of Texas is in extreme drought.
    • Bad news: that leaves fully 87.83% of Texas in exceptional drought, the worst drought category.


    Texas Drought: Good News and Bad News | Climate Abyss | a Chron.com blog
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirCharles View Post
    Ms Rebel obviously can only read stuff at the LaRouche website. She seems to be blind for anything else.

    More accurately, you can't "debunk" anything with a Hokey Schtick - as you attempted to do. Once that even makes an appearance, readers justifiably disregard your post and move on.

    It is the climate equivalent to Godwin's.
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    Capital Climate report on the continuing prevalence of hot records over cold in the USA. The upward trend is continuing from the noughties into the 2011s.

    http://capitalclimate.blogspot.com/2...hing-cold.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenIsGood View Post
    Anyone else becoming concerned by the slowdown in global warming? The trend had been intact for nearly 30 years. Why is it happening now? Is it a cause for alarm?

    Trenberth, Fasullo and Abraham reckon 20 years is needed to distinguish a global warming signal from background natural variation.

    "deviations between trends in global mean surface temperature and TOA radiation on decadal timescales can be considerable, and associated uncertainty surrounds the observational record. The recent work suggests that 20 years or longer is needed to begin to resolve a significant global warming signal in the context of natural variations."
    Trenberth, Fasullo, and Abraham Respond to Spencer and Braswell
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    Quote Originally Posted by owedtojoy View Post
    Another climate change denier who lacks a sense of irony!
    Oh sorry Mr Owed to Irony-- Are you referring to me or Helen Keller?
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    Directly taking on the environmentalist movement, who say human beings and their carbon
    dioxide emissions cause global warming, a group of Argentine
    scientists is asserting that it is the Sun--not man--that is
    responsible for climate change, and that this has been the case
    for tens of thousands of years.
    Scientists from the Argentine Oceanographic Institute (IADO)
    and the Geological Institute of the South (Ingeosur) collected
    data from an estuary in the city of Bahia Blanca, in the province
    of Buenos Aires, at a depth of 15 meters, which they say
    contradict several studies and forecasts made by radical
    environmentalist groups. "We intended to prove a theory that
    opposes several [environmentalist] dogmas," says Dr. Eduardo
    Gomez, IADO's deputy director.
    The studies, performed over two decades, show that that
    climate change isn't a simple anomaly but rather has always
    existed, as verified in geological records corresponding to the
    last 10,000 years. The data show that during that period, there
    have been oscillations in average sea level caused by alternating
    periods of freezing and melting, due to global climate change,
    and that these variations are uncontrollable.
    Dr. Gomez explained that this theory implies that human
    activity cannot stop global warming, which will reach its maximum
    point in 600 years. "It's clear to us that at least over the past
    10,000 years, the Sun determined--and determines--global
    temperatures on Earth; climate change obeys natural cycles, and
    the evidence of same is beneath the sea where variations in sea
    level produced by fluctuation in solar activity, can be found.
    When the sea level dropped, it was cold, and when it rose, it was
    hot."
    The Argentine scientists used carbon-14 dating to determine
    the age of sedimentary deposits and also conducted
    paleo-environmental studies of microfossils. These analyses
    indicated the existence of many different sea levels, well below
    today's level, spaced out over time. "These studies show that
    global temperature changes {always existed}, including during
    historical eras: there are clear indications that approximately
    1,000 years ago, the Vikings colonized Greenland during a period
    of heat, when there was less ice on the surface of the Earth than
    today," Gomez said.
    "Man's action on the planet is important," Gomez said. "But
    in this case, it's not a determining factor for changing the
    climate on a planetary scale, because this doesn't depend on
    human activity, but rather on the Sun."
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