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    BBC News - Climate sceptics rally to expose 'myth'This is an very good article on that conference.
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    Are cosmic rays causing global warming?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirCharles View Post
    Are cosmic rays causing global warming?
    No.
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    Quote Originally Posted by imokyrok View Post
    Thanks ... after Denning's impassioned plea, did the Heartland Institute go back to its paymasters and say something like this?

    "Look, there are things here we need to be facing. What scientists are saying about ACC is, in the main, true. Our tactics of piling on to minor issues and portraying it as a "left wing conspiracy" will not wash in the long run. Like cigarette smoking, the facts will just overwhelm us. We need to be planning ahead and finding true free-market solutions for climate change, otherwise the eventual agenda will be an emergency one dictated by people who are much less devoted to the free market than we are."

    Did they heed Denning's warning? No, indeed they doubled down on the crazy ... within weeks they were hyping the Spencer & Braswell paper that was supposed to be "the death knell of global warming" .... and caused the journal editor to resign over the false media spotlight. S&B has been more than adequately debunked, but our friends at the Heartland are still pumping out the lies and propaganda about the grand "left-wing conspiracy".

    The Heartland Institute is still pumping out pro-tobacco propaganda also. I suppose if they did not do it, their puppetmasters would just go elsewhere.
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    Dessler commenting on Spencer and Lindzen:



    => The Weekend Wonk: Dessler vs Lindzen Debate
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    A long post worth reading from John Nielsen-Gammon, the Texas State Climatologist whom Governor Perry does not know.

    N-G is a thoroughly apolitical figure. He even co-authored with Anthony Watts a much-heralded paper on US temperature stations. It cleared up once and for all the hype that Watts had been spreading about the accuracy of the stations. http://www.surfacestations.org/Fall_...urce_may08.pdf

    In a long and cogent post,N-G examines the connection between the Texas drought, the high temperatures and global warming. His conclusions:

    For most people the extra degree or degree and a half was no big deal. For the rancher who’s managed to hang on until September but whose stock tank is going to run dry just a week or so before it would have been replenished by rain, or for the family whose house was just on the wrong side of the edge of the wildfire, a degree or degree and a half makes all the difference in the world.

    Summary

    Precipitation: The balance of evidence does not support the assertion that the rainfall deficit since October 2010 was made larger or more likely by global warming.

    Temperature: Compared to long-term averages of summer temperature, the rainfall deficit accounted for about 4 F of excess heat and global warming accounted for about 1 F of excess heat. Warmer temperatures lead to greater water demand, faster evaporation, and greater drying-out of potential fuels for fire. Thus, the impacts of the drought were enhanced by global warming.
    It lends credibility to the emerging picture of what global warming is like. A drought is caused by an La Nina event, and its effects are accentuated and made worse by anthropgenic climate change. This will be confirmed, I expect, across a wider range of phenomena from sea ice to tropical storms.

    Texas Drought and Global Warming | Climate Abyss | a Chron.com blog
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirCharles View Post
    Dessler commenting on Spencer and Lindzen:



    => The Weekend Wonk: Dessler vs Lindzen Debate
    Good 'janet and john' style explanation by Dessler. Bookmarked to present each time a denier comes out with "Spencer says......." as they will over and over and over again no matter how often it's debunked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by owedtojoy View Post
    A long post worth reading from John Nielsen-Gammon, the Texas State Climatologist whom Governor Perry does not know.

    N-G is a thoroughly apolitical figure. He even co-authored with Anthony Watts a much-heralded paper on US temperature stations. It cleared up once and for all the hype that Watts had been spreading about the accuracy of the stations. http://www.surfacestations.org/Fall_...urce_may08.pdf

    In a long and cogent post,N-G examines the connection between the Texas drought, the high temperatures and global warming. His conclusions:



    It lends credibility to the emerging picture of what global warming is like. A drought is caused by an La Nina event, and its effects are accentuated and made worse by anthropgenic climate change. This will be confirmed, I expect, across a wider range of phenomena from sea ice to tropical storms.

    Texas Drought and Global Warming | Climate Abyss | a Chron.com blog
    Incidentally, if Texas has a 2-year drought, what does it say about the theories of Lindzen, Svensmark, Spencer etc .... shouldn't enough clouds have formed by now to mitigate the drought and cool down the state?
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    Charles Mountbatten-The Leader of the ACC Pack

    --Taking over as the next president of the
    World Wildlife Fund UK (WWF) on Sept.8, Britain's Prince Charles
    Mountbatten said: "We are, of course, witnessing what some people
    call the sixth great extinction event -- the continued erosion of
    much of the Earth's vital biodiversity caused by a whole host of
    pressures, from the rising demand for land to the corrosive
    effects of all kinds of pollution."
    Referring to himself as an endangered species, Charles
    warned that the world is already in the sixth extinction event,
    with species dying out at a much faster rate than at any time
    since the death of most of the dinosaurs 65 million years ago.
    Charles, who was indoctrinated by his Malthusian father,
    Philip Mountbatten, British Queen's consort, is a strong
    proponent of population control, otherwise known as genocide. He
    regularly attacks modern agriculture and industry, and on June
    14, 2010, delivering a speech on the 25th anniversary of the
    Oxford Centre for Islamic Studies on Islam and Environmentalism,
    he had called for a reduction in the world's birth rate,
    especially among the Muslims.
    In his 2010 speech he had said: "Wherever you look, the
    world's population is increasing fast." "It goes up by the
    equivalent of the entire population of the United Kingdom every
    year. Which means that this poor planet of ours, which already
    struggles to sustain 6.8 billion people, will somehow have to
    support over 9 billion people within fifty years," he said.
    Charles had told his audience on that occasion that they must
    "face up to the fact more honestly than we do that one of the
    biggest causes of high birth rates remains cultural" -- an
    apparent reference to the high birth rate amongst the Muslims.
    The general thrust of his speech then was a call for a
    return to tradition. Such a move was presented as a means of
    combating the West's "rapacious desire for continuous economic
    growth and the mechanistic and reductionist approach to our
    scientific understanding of the world around us," Charles had
    said. At the WWF speech on Sept. 8, he said "climate change was
    not the only problem but merely speeding up the rapacious
    destruction of natural resources like water, land, and food that
    humans need to survive."

    The ACC followers of dotty Charles on this site may remember the video they panned called "The Species That Should Go Extinct" That species is the oligarchical species and if Charles has declared himself extinct, he won't be taking the rest of us with him.

    http://www.larouchepac.com/node/19315
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