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    Quote Originally Posted by rash mulligan View Post
    Interesting. A quarter of an inch in one year is quite a drop.
    No doubt the itsy bitsy spiders will be along soon to spin their way out of this one.

    Weather cycles cause a drop in global sea level, scientists find - The Washington Post
    We have tried to train you, rash, in the wonders of science but you seem to bound to put your foot in your mouth or sh*t in your britches, no matter what.

    Natural variability, my dear man, there will be some variation from year to year in sea level rise. That might involve it dropping a fraction or so in a particular year.

    Anyway, thanks for allowing me the chance to show how accurate IPCC predictions are

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    Despite the best attempts of the Republican Party, the US continues to be a net exporter of solar energy technologies, and the sector continues to expand its job growth.
    Though, sometimes you'd never think it to listen to Fox News.



    Solar Stunner: America is a $1.9 Billion Exporter of Solar Products | ThinkProgress
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    Texas Tech professor Katherine Hayhoe provides an excellent graphic to disprove the "cooling since 1998" myth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by owedtojoy View Post
    We have tried to train you, rash, in the wonders of science
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cassandra Syndrome View Post
    As an old friend of yours used to say "Another Epic Fail".
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    An indication from Professor John Nielsen-Gammon about how much off-expectation the Texas Drought is. It is the easily the driest and hottest ever recorded. Global warming, anyone? Global cooling, anyone?



    The August projected temperature is looking like a monstrous outlier:



    We’re on track for an August average temperature of 88.1 F. There’s still time for it to change by a few tenths, but not only will we shatter the previous August record (by over 2 F), but we’ll also break the all-time record for warmest month by about 1 F. The all-time record, by the way, was set just last month.

    The good news is that the weather pattern seems to be breaking down and tropical thunderstorms seem likely to move in by the end of the week. This will bring temperatures back down to closer to normal for this time of year, and hopefully start making a little dent in the drought.

    The bad news is that a few inches of rain isn’t going to make a huge difference. It’s been so dry that we need above-average rainfall in September just to avoid setting another record: driest 12 consecutive months on record.
    Texas Drought: Spot the Outlier | Climate Abyss | a Chron.com blog
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    The irony of the last post is that Texas has a Governor one of the biggest politically powerful science deniers. I say "science" not just "climate science" because Rick Perry denies the truth of Evolution as well. God know what other fringe beliefs lie under the careful hairdo. This guy is supposed to be "Like Bush but without the brains".

    Here Professor climate scientist Andy Dessler addresses him an op-ed:

    Shooting the messenger - Environment - MiamiHerald.com

    Here Paul Krugman reflects on the terror of having a total irrationalist in the leadership of the most powerful country on earth (some of the other contenders are as bad, and may be downright worse):

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/29/op...ence.html?_r=3
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    Just a reminder that not all Republicans are as far out on the fringe as Rick Perry. In the past, great climate scientists like Gilbert Plass and Charles Keeling were Republicans. Now alsmost all scientists who were members have left the party, not just climate scientists.

    Richard Alley seems to be have been one exception. You can only wonder how long more he can stay.

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    A "meme" seems to be doing the rounds that Tropical Storm Irene was "overhyped".

    Such stories play into the "Scientists wrong again!" school of journalism - as if journalists had a lien on the truth.

    Irene claimed upward of 40 lives (counting so far), and the bill for the clean up will run into millions. And it could have been a whole lot worse without the precautions.

    Statistician Nate Silver, who usually predicts elections, takes a look.

    How Irene Lived Up to the Hype - NYTimes.com
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    Well Joy---
    The Climate Change Debate thread seems to be you debating yourself today, so to mix it up a bit I am posting this authorative video. It was in 200. But it's true and funny so I thought you and others may enjoy it. But let me warn you in advance, before you decide to get too snide, or go to your favorite charts or wiki it out, I have more to come by leading scientists, who aren't anykind of skeptics, just competent scientists, and they will hang you out to dry, by your beloved solar cells if you prefer.

    So enjoy this video Out of the Icebox
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