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    Texas Tech professor Katherine Hayhoe provides an excellent graphic to disprove the "cooling since 1998" myth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by owedtojoy View Post
    We have tried to train you, rash, in the wonders of science
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cassandra Syndrome View Post
    As an old friend of yours used to say "Another Epic Fail".
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    An indication from Professor John Nielsen-Gammon about how much off-expectation the Texas Drought is. It is the easily the driest and hottest ever recorded. Global warming, anyone? Global cooling, anyone?



    The August projected temperature is looking like a monstrous outlier:



    We’re on track for an August average temperature of 88.1 F. There’s still time for it to change by a few tenths, but not only will we shatter the previous August record (by over 2 F), but we’ll also break the all-time record for warmest month by about 1 F. The all-time record, by the way, was set just last month.

    The good news is that the weather pattern seems to be breaking down and tropical thunderstorms seem likely to move in by the end of the week. This will bring temperatures back down to closer to normal for this time of year, and hopefully start making a little dent in the drought.

    The bad news is that a few inches of rain isn’t going to make a huge difference. It’s been so dry that we need above-average rainfall in September just to avoid setting another record: driest 12 consecutive months on record.
    Texas Drought: Spot the Outlier | Climate Abyss | a Chron.com blog
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    The irony of the last post is that Texas has a Governor one of the biggest politically powerful science deniers. I say "science" not just "climate science" because Rick Perry denies the truth of Evolution as well. God know what other fringe beliefs lie under the careful hairdo. This guy is supposed to be "Like Bush but without the brains".

    Here Professor climate scientist Andy Dessler addresses him an op-ed:

    Shooting the messenger - Environment - MiamiHerald.com

    Here Paul Krugman reflects on the terror of having a total irrationalist in the leadership of the most powerful country on earth (some of the other contenders are as bad, and may be downright worse):

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/29/op...ence.html?_r=3
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    Just a reminder that not all Republicans are as far out on the fringe as Rick Perry. In the past, great climate scientists like Gilbert Plass and Charles Keeling were Republicans. Now alsmost all scientists who were members have left the party, not just climate scientists.

    Richard Alley seems to be have been one exception. You can only wonder how long more he can stay.

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    A "meme" seems to be doing the rounds that Tropical Storm Irene was "overhyped".

    Such stories play into the "Scientists wrong again!" school of journalism - as if journalists had a lien on the truth.

    Irene claimed upward of 40 lives (counting so far), and the bill for the clean up will run into millions. And it could have been a whole lot worse without the precautions.

    Statistician Nate Silver, who usually predicts elections, takes a look.

    How Irene Lived Up to the Hype - NYTimes.com
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    Well Joy---
    The Climate Change Debate thread seems to be you debating yourself today, so to mix it up a bit I am posting this authorative video. It was in 200. But it's true and funny so I thought you and others may enjoy it. But let me warn you in advance, before you decide to get too snide, or go to your favorite charts or wiki it out, I have more to come by leading scientists, who aren't anykind of skeptics, just competent scientists, and they will hang you out to dry, by your beloved solar cells if you prefer.

    So enjoy this video Out of the Icebox
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    “The most devastating weather event ever to hit the region.”

    August 30, 2011



    A quote we seem to be hearing more and more often these days….yet another “most”, “biggest”, or “worst ever”.

    As I wrote several days ago, Irene’s rains have become the real problem, creating devastating inland flooding. Scott Mandia explains in his radio interview in another post today. The comparison that comes to mind is 1998, when Hurricane Mitch made landfall in the Honduras as “only” a category 1 storm, but one of massive size, that dumped huge amounts of precipitation – deadly in a poorly equipped Central America, where ultimately 20,000 thousand people were killed in floods or mudslides, or simply disappeared.

    More at Joe Romm’s Climate Progress:

    Some folks in the media and denier-sphere have tried to downplay the severity of Hurricane Irene. That’s probably because they don’t live in my home town of Middletown, New York, one of the many Hudson Valley & Catskills towns devastated by Irene. Where I grew up, this was the storm of the century.



    More on Irene:

    Northeast Reels from Flooding. Climate Deniers: Quit yer Whining – Water is good for Plants.


    August 30, 2011



    AP: In the wake of Hurricane Irene, there are signs of the storm’s brutal force all around Fleischmanns, New York. Irene has been blamed for at least 40 deaths in 11 states, including one in Fleischmanns.

    More photos below from Buzzfeed.


    Greenwich, CT


    Princeton, New Jersey Transit train station


    Route 100 in Vermont.


    Tannersville, Greene County, NY.


    Mendon, Vermont along Route 4.


    Vermont.

    You get the idea.

    For more images, go here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rebellin View Post
    Well Joy---
    The Climate Change Debate thread seems to be you debating yourself today, so to mix it up a bit I am posting this authorative video. It was in 200. But it's true and funny so I thought you and others may enjoy it. But let me warn you in advance, before you decide to get too snide, or go to your favorite charts or wiki it out, I have more to come by leading scientists, who aren't anykind of skeptics, just competent scientists, and they will hang you out to dry, by your beloved solar cells if you prefer.

    So enjoy this video Out of the Icebox
    So this crap video should disprove AGW

    Here is your sunspot activity



    No correlation whatsoever between sunspot activity and rising global temperatures since the 1920s and oppositional trend since the 1970s.

    All described here, here, here and here. Just to name some articles.

    Maybe you close your "icebox" again with your "leading scientists", who aren't anykind of "skeptics".

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