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    valamhic valamhic is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by mossyman View Post
    Obviously because you are a cretin you can't understand that the term 'never ending drought' is a metaphor for an unusually severe or prolonged drought. But keep it up, I am learning a great deal about how the cretinous mind operates from you. Thank you for that. ��
    You certainly have a lot of learning to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breeal View Post
    Incorrect..... Numerous studies showed the state’s drought was normal, not historic, and unrelated to Climate Change; previous dry spells in the Golden State have lasted more than 1,000 years.
    Au contraire, studies have shown climate change did contribute to drought in California.

    Contribution of anthropogenic warming to California drought during 2012–2014 - Williams - 2015 - Geophysical Research Letters - Wiley Online Library
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    Quote Originally Posted by valamhic View Post
    The native Americans got along in that region quite well using the resources that were available. European settlers arrived, stole the land, hunted the natives onto reservations and find it difficult to get rain to fall in quantities they like. Then they expect us to feel sorry for them and change our lifestyles to change that climate to what it never was.
    Oh thank you for that profound historical insight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mossyman View Post
    Incorrect..... Numerous studies showed the state’s drought was normal, not historic, and unrelated to Climate Change; previous dry spells in the Golden State have lasted more than 1,000 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breeal View Post
    Incorrect..... Numerous studies showed the state’s drought was normal, not historic, and unrelated to Climate Change; previous dry spells in the Golden State have lasted more than 1,000 years.
    Link to peer reviewed papers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mossyman View Post
    Link to peer reviewed papers?
    This is what I love about you guys:

    "prove that climate is natural!"


    Unbelievable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mossyman View Post
    Oh thank you for that profound historical insight.
    Climate change/global warming is by definition all about history, in fact the word "change" is about history and time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breeal View Post
    Incorrect..... Numerous studies showed the state’s drought was normal, not historic, and unrelated to Climate Change; previous dry spells in the Golden State have lasted more than 1,000 years.
    Indeed:


    The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration for one:

    https://docs.lib.noaa.gov/noaa_docum..._2011-2014.pdf

    The CMIP5 models project that rising greenhouse gases should increase California winter precipitation but that changes to date are small compared to the recent drought anomalies. As such, the recent drought was dominated by natural variability, a conclusion framed by a discussion of the differences between observed and modeled tropical SST trends over the past decades.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.a91bc33f5ca6

    “Natural oceanic and atmospheric patterns” are to blame for the drought, the 42-page report says. Specifically, it highlights a persistent area of high pressure off the West Coast that has blocked rain-bearing storms from coming ashore – which some have dubbed the “ridiculously resilient ridge.”

    The pattern of sea surface temperatures also contributed to the drought, the study says.

    The NOAA-sponsored study was developed by eight authors from NOAA, NASA, Columbia University, and the International Research Institute for Climate and Society. It comprehensively examines the drivers of rainy season (November-April) precipitation during the previous three years (2011-2012 to 2013-14). The study compares observations with a large set of model simulations to detect the relevant natural and manmade contributions to the drought.

    The drought was likely set off by La Nina – a pattern of cooler than normal ocean temperatures in the tropical Pacific – which has historically been linked to reduced precipitation in the West, the study says. But even after the La Nina broke down, a pattern of warm ocean temperatures in the western Pacific set up a storm track that arched northeastward through the Pacific, away from the Golden State.

    This series of atmospheric and ocean events led to three straight very dry years, though the study stressed the lack of rain and snow was not uncommon.

    “Multi-year droughts appear regularly in the state’s climate record, and it’s a safe bet that a similar event will happen again,” said Richard Seager, report lead author and a professor at Columbia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mossyman View Post
    Link to peer reviewed papers?
    The gold rush was in 1849, the Navada desert was there that time, why do you think they named a nearby state "Arizona"? It was hardly after muck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trainwreck View Post
    This is what I love about you guys:

    "prove that climate is natural!"


    Unbelievable.
    Let "cretin" show us a pier reviewed paper to prove there is a lime stone rock in Barley hill , Kingscourt, Co Meath. There is no evidence of there being a drought there for several generations.
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