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    Quote Originally Posted by mossyman View Post
    Your arguments are so cretinous that you get first prize as the biggest cretin on p.ie

    My personal favourite is that predictions don't matter because they haven't happened yet. The logic being we should ignore all warnings of future threats because they are, well, in the future. Don't prepare for storms, floods and droughts. Keep on smoking twenty a day. If a train is coming towards you and someone tells you to step off the track, sure what would they know? It's all crystal ball stuff.


    No, the logic is that we should treat predictions as predictions, not as proof of any need for restorative or mitigating action. And this is why:




    Y2K anyone? "Predictions" led to consensus enforced imperative to act, led to massive costs, led to waste.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trainwreck View Post
    No, the logic is that we should treat predictions as predictions, not as proof of any need for restorative or mitigating action. And this is why:




    Y2K anyone? "Predictions" led to consensus enforced imperative to act, led to massive costs, led to waste.
    yeh but someone made lots of money out of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trainwreck View Post
    No, the logic is that we should treat predictions as predictions, not as proof of any need for restorative or mitigating action.
    There we have it ladies and gentlemen. The stupidest statement on P.ie. Behold: Mere predictions don't need any restorative or mitigating action. Because Trainwreck tells us so.

    Any the reasoning for this. One false warning in the past. So rather than strengthening forecasting models and warning systems we should ignore warnings and predictions entirely.

    Well done you absolute cretin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RasherHash View Post
    yeh but someone made lots of money out of it.
    And who makes the money out of climate denial?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mossyman View Post

    Any the reasoning for this. One false warning in the past. So rather than strengthening forecasting models and warning systems we should ignore warnings and predictions entirely.

    Well done you absolute cretin.
    One false warning! There's been thousands of false warnings in the past, why do think nobody pays any attention to the hand waving from these money grabbing climate 'Scientists'? Did you think it's because they have a good track record??
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    Quote Originally Posted by mossyman View Post
    There we have it ladies and gentlemen. The stupidest statement on P.ie. Behold: Mere predictions don't need any restorative or mitigating action. Because Trainwreck tells us so.

    Any the reasoning for this. One false warning in the past. So rather than strengthening forecasting models and warning systems we should ignore warnings and predictions entirely.

    Well done you absolute cretin.
    Well, you can't say I didn't try to educate you.


    Here, try some Nassim Taleb:

    https://www.amazon.com/Nassim-Nichol...b/e/B000APVZ7W
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breeal View Post
    One false warning! There's been thousands of false warnings in the past, why do think nobody pays any attention to the hand waving from these money grabbing climate 'Scientists'? Did you think it's because they have a good track record??
    What ever happened to "acid rain", there was a huge scare in the late 1970's all scientifically based, anti fuel too? No one paid any heed and my trees are as healthy as wild ducks with all the co2 available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breeal View Post
    I thought Global Warming was supposed to increase extreme weather?




    2016-17 QUIETEST HURRICANE SEASON ON RECORD FOR SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE | Climate Depot
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    Obvioulsy you can't tell the difference between a single data point and a long run trend, you filthy cretin.
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    Like this trend?



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    What trend?

    I literally fell about with laughter!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Crant View Post
    What ever happened to "acid rain", there was a huge scare in the late 1970's all scientifically based, anti fuel too? No one paid any heed and my trees are as healthy as wild ducks with all the co2 available.
    Yep, failed prediction...
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    Anyone want to move the conversation forward. What will happen next, seeing that this tread deals with predictions. Even if a Democrat was re-elected in the US and in power by January 2020, 4 years will have been lost from warmers perspective there. Warmers have been treated to a harsh dose of reality. Their wind and solar solutions have proved not to work. The killing of rare wild birds may never be punished, but the noise from wind turbines has been proved in the courts. Big compensation pay outs are pending in Cork, similar trouble is brewing in Wicklow and Roscommon. 5 massive turbines are to go up near me in Kingscourt all between 5 and 800 meters of 38 family homes. There will be craic when they are commissioned and as the renewable energy plan is in contravention of the Aarhus Convention and the SEA and EIA Directive, government may be on the hook.

    I reckon, governments manage through crises. They are elected to prevent the terrorism or severe economic downturns, civil war politics (now over). When the crises is over, they use the spare time to pursue their other little schemes like a "great idea" for wind energy or to save the planet. Climate change is an easy option at first but when it gets embedded, the cost in opportunity and jobs lost shines through.

    I would love to know where it will go from here.
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