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    ooohhh. A youtube video...

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    Here is another dodgy statistic.

    In 2006 Al Gore announced that we had ten years to save the planet from scorching itself into flames.

    Well then that would leave us with about

    5 years 10 months 10 days 10 hours and about 7 minutes.

    Yep we gota scorching alright.
    Have you looked outside at the grass lately?
    Brown grass in the middle of March because of a drop in solar activity.

    The sun has betrayed you fools. Give up your Co2 warming nonsense.
    The truth shall set you free.

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    This is a fascinating piece:

    Weather balloon data backs up missing decline found in old magazine Watts Up With That?

    Some of the highlights include:

    a fresh look at some accruate and untainted temperature records that show the 1990s not so special:


    The amazing disappearing cooling, from that master statistican magician James Hansen:

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    And that old favourite:

    OMG WE WILL HAVE OPEN WATER AT THE NORTH POLE IN THE NEXT 100 YEARS!!!


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    Drawing good charts 101

    Is WUWT getting so croaky that he is recycing his old scams?

    The charts

    - have different y-axis scales
    - are clearly not the raw data but data rolled up over some period.
    - climate change should be judged over scales closer to 30 years.

    Re-draw the charts with the raw data & the correct scales, then we can talk.

    Ask Watts what happened to his programme to check the accuracy of US weather stations that he proudly announced to Glenn Beck. Since the scientists have disproved his claims about station dropout skewing the data, his fanfared "programme" has been quietly dropped. Oddly enough, Glenn has not called back to find out how it is progressing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by owedtojoy View Post
    Is WUWT getting so croaky that he is recycing his old scams?

    The charts

    - have different y-axis scales
    - are clearly not the raw data but data rolled up over some period.
    - climate change should be judged over scales closer to 30 years.

    Re-draw the charts with the raw data & the correct scales, then we can talk.

    Ask Watts what happened to his programme to check the accuracy of US weather stations that he proudly announced to Glenn Beck. Since the scientists have disproved his claims about station dropout skewing the data, his fanfared "programme" has been quietly dropped. Oddly enough, Glenn has not called back to find out how it is progressing.
    There is nothing wrong with the scales used. The reveal the change in the relative level of GISS reported temps. A decline turns into an increase. The ballon data seems to indicate that the first guess was correct before it got "hidden".

    The 1940s went from being above 0.2 anomally to below 0.2 anomally. the late 1970s went from being around 0.1 anomally to around 0.2 anomally. Talk about extremely suspicious behaviour. This series should be completely reconstructed by indpeendent an non Greeny compromised ((see other thread) third parties or tossed..

    Decline hiding going on all over the place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by owedtojoy View Post
    Ask Watts what happened to his programme to check the accuracy of US weather stations that he proudly announced to Glenn Beck. Since the scientists have disproved his claims about station dropout skewing the data, his fanfared "programme" has been quietly dropped. Oddly enough, Glenn has not called back to find out how it is progressing.
    There is a paper being preparrd for submission.

    You seem to be getting glee from a single paper rucshed to print on partial data (freely shared by Anthony Watts to the authors please note - OMG sharing data!!!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by owedtojoy View Post
    Is WUWT getting so croaky that he is recycing his old scams?

    The charts

    - have different y-axis scales
    - are clearly not the raw data but data rolled up over some period.
    - climate change should be judged over scales closer to 30 years.

    Re-draw the charts with the raw data & the correct scales, then we can talk.

    Ask Watts what happened to his programme to check the accuracy of US weather stations that he proudly announced to Glenn Beck. Since the scientists have disproved his claims about station dropout skewing the data, his fanfared "programme" has been quietly dropped. Oddly enough, Glenn has not called back to find out how it is progressing.
    How do you feel about an ice free North Pole?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombo View Post
    How do you feel about an ice free North Pole?
    Pretty hot tbh.
    "But do 'climategate' revelations justify the sceptics’ claims that this is “the final nail in the coffin” of global warming theory? Not at all. They damage the credibility of three or four scientists. They raise questions about the integrity of one or perhaps two out of several hundred lines of evidence."

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    UCSB Geologist Finds Data Linking Orbit Cycle to Ice Age

    Can we expect an ice age to start every 36,500,000 days or so?

    While the battle for what's right and wrong roars on concerning climate change as a whole, it seems that many small observations are left to collect dust while politicians and activists concentrate on their own immediate problems. It can seem overwhelming at times when science-fact is pushed into a corner because it doesn't help support a growingly concerned (or unconcerned) community. Nevertheless, these data and observations are important in the long term to help climate scientists and geologists understand how the Earth changes over millennia and how those changes are affecting the current climate.

    DailyTech - UCSB Geologist Finds Data Linking Orbit Cycle to Ice Age
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