The Climate Change Debate Thread

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I find it hard to say this with laughing out loud, but the Enquiry into the "Climategate e-mail hack" Enquiry has found nothing more to enquire about.

"While we have some reservations about the reviews which UEA commissioned, the key point is that they have made a number of constructive recommendations.

"In our view it is time to make the changes and improvements recommended, and with greater openness and transparency move on."

No doubt deniers will soon be on-line demanding an Enquiry into the Enquiry into the first Enquiry. They might even meet themselves coming back.

BBC News - ClimateGate affair: 'Learn and move on', say MPs

[Tombo]

Another well researched and written piece on the ongoing corruption of science in the field of "climate".

Debunking the Antarctica myths | The Spectator

[Tombo]

I find it hard to say this with laughing out loud, but the Enquiry into the "Climategate e-mail hack" Enquiry has found nothing more to enquire about.



No doubt deniers will soon be on-line demanding an Enquiry into the Enquiry into the first Enquiry. They might even meet themselves coming back.

BBC News - ClimateGate affair: 'Learn and move on', say MPs

Thanks for raising that. Those who read the report note the way the following was withheld following a request for amendment from one member of the Commitee who took the job seriously.

Amendment proposed, to leave out from “science” in line 3 to the end of the paragraph and add “There are proposals to increase worldwide taxation by up to a trillion dollars on the basis of climate science predictions. This is an area where strong and opposing views are held. The release of the e-mails from CRU at the University of East Anglia and the accusations that followed demanded independent and objective scrutiny by independent panels. This has not happened. The composition of the two panels has been criticised for having members who were over identified with the views of CRU. Lord Oxburgh as President of the Carbon Capture and Storage Association and Chairman of Falck Renewable appeared to have a conflict of interest. Lord Oxburgh himself was aware that this might lead to criticism. Similarly Professor Boulton as an ex colleague of CRU seemed wholly inappropriate to be a member of the Russell panel. No reputable scientist who was critical of CRU’s work was on the panel, and prominent and distinguished critics were not interviewed. The Oxburgh panel did not do as our predecessor committee had been promised, investigate the science, but only looked at the integrity of the researchers. With the exception of Professor Kelly’s notes other notes taken by members of the panel have not been published. This leaves a question mark against whether CRU science is reliable. The Oxburgh panel also did not look at CRU’s controversial work on the IPPC which is what has attracted most series allegations. Russell did not investigate the deletion of e-mails. We are now left after three investigations without a clear understanding of whether or not the CRU science is compromised.”.

—(Graham Stringer.)

Question put, That the Amendment be made.

The Committee divided.

Ayes, 1
Graham Stringer

Noes, 3
Gregg McClymont
Stephen Metcalfe
Stephen Mosley

Paragraph 98 agreed to.

http://www.publications.parliament.u...ch/444/444.pdf


Sure, let's "move on" The usual political solution

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A summary of the Cancun Conference, done by hand puppets, and as fair a summary as you could get in 2 minutes.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76BgKe1naFc]YouTube - COP16 in 2 Minutes[/ame]

Presented by the UK Youth Climate Coalition.

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Thanks for raising that. Those who read the report note the way the following was withheld following a request for amendment from one member of the Commitee who took the job seriously.



http://www.publications.parliament.u...ch/444/444.pdf


Sure, let's "move on" The usual political solution

is this the graham stringer that said dyslexia was a "fiction" ?

[owedtojoy]

The Climate Show from New Zealand .. the Cryosphere Edition.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDr12nyuD04&feature=player_embedded]YouTube - The Climate Show 07[/ame]

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is this the graham stringer that said dyslexia was a "fiction" ?

Surely he meant "fcition"?

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In another "twist" of extreme weather, the records snowfalls in the US are being followed by record high temperatures.

A surge of early spring heat is tumbling high temperature records across the southern Plains from Texas to Nebraska.

The 86° at Midland, Texas at 3:22 pm local time blasted away the old record for February 16 of 81° from 2006. Midland climate records began in 1930.

CapitalClimate

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If you watched the Jason Box interview on The Climate Show, you should visit his website.

Jason Box Homepage - Byrd Polar Research Center

This page has some time-lapse images (when he recovers the Petermann Glaciers records, it should be riveting) and some beautiful photomontage. I can't get fullscreen, but even the small views are fantastic.

http://bprc.osu.edu/wiki/Jason_Box_Media

Jason Box Greenland_2005_Pink_Floyd_Thin_Ice_Andreas_Rayback en

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The two nature papers mentioned above which find a link between global warming and extreme weather events have attracted much comment, most of it extremely positive.

Science Media Centre » Blog Archive » Expert reaction to paper on floods and climate warming

Dr Richard Allan, Department of Meteorology, University of Reading:
“The two studies demonstrate through careful use of observations and detailed simulations of weather patterns, rainfall distributions and river flow, that heavy rainfall events are becoming more intense and liable to cause serious damage through human-induced emissions of greenhouse gases and the associated global warming.

One of the authors, Dr Xuebin Zhang, Research Scientist with Environment Canada, provides the following comments:

What did you and your co-authors find?

“Our research provides the first scientific evidence that human-induced greenhouse gas increases have contributed to the observed intensification of heavy precipitation events over large parts of the Northern Hemisphere, including North America, mid-latitude Eurasia, and India.”

Climate change doubled likelihood of devastating UK floods of 2000 | Environment | guardian.co.uk

Floods caused by climate change - Telegraph

Even the Daily Telegraph! Et tu, Torygraphe! and no "balancing quotes" from James Delingpole, Lord Lawson or Lord Monckton!

Floods caused by climate change
Devastating floods which wreaked havoc across Britain in 2000 were made more likely by global warming, according to the first study to link flooding in this country to climate change.

BBC News - Climate change raises flood risk, researchers say

Prof Roger Pielke Jnr imanages as usual to try to have it both ways. He gave a holding statement to Science Media (above), praising the research. In case his denier friends call him a turncoat he issued a contradictory statement for Lawson's Global Warming Policy Foundation, pooh-poohing the research he praises is the first statement. Can you really trust anything this man says? BTW, Professor, the usual procedure of rebuttal is to write a letter to the journal.