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    Quote Originally Posted by sharper View Post
    it's just that the melting won't accelerate catastrophically
    Yes, terribly sad news for activists. Must be terribly disappointing.

    This is a good example of Climate Science slowly distancing itself from the activist drivel. Expect this trend to continue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAD1OH View Post
    In addition to the UK tabloid skeptics that admit to not being able to even read peer review science....

    Leading global warming skeptic admits on CNN that as much as 40% of his research is funded by the Fossil Fuel Industries
    Just to be clear are you claiming that research results are driven by the desired conclusions of those who fund their research?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenIsGood View Post
    Yes, terribly sad news for activists. Must be terribly disappointing.

    This is a good example of Climate Science slowly distancing itself from the activist drivel. Expect this trend to continue.
    The biggest scare object the activists had in their toolbox was the rise in sea-level but as you point out Climate Scientists have been scaling back on these doomsday predictions. The forecast increase of several meters by the end of the century as per the first IPCC report has now been cut back to as little as 4 inches! Suddenly not quite so scary. This is why the warmies are now trying desperately to find a new scary phenomenon to frighten people with which is why they have lately become obsessed with the weather claiming every hot day, cold day, wet day, dry day etc etc is because of AGW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenIsGood View Post
    Expect this trend to continue.
    Thank goodness you're on hand to predict the results of future studies! They hardly need run them now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombo View Post
    By showing that the IPCC predicted in its Fourth Assessment Report that average temperatures would rise by 0.2 degrees by the end of 2010, but instead the observed increase over the period was in fact a decrease of 0.0002 degrees?

    right.
    And yet amazingly despite the fall in average temperatures the weather, thinking that the forecast was right, is according to Dumber and co. producing extreme weather events based on a non-existent rise. Is this some kind of weird placebo effect?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SAT View Post
    The forecast increase of several meters by the end of the century as per the first IPCC report has now been cut back to as little as 4 inches!
    The first IPCC report predicted 6cm per decade, 65cm by 2100.

    How many metres is that SAT?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SAT View Post
    Just to be clear are you claiming that research results are driven by the desired conclusions of those who fund their research?
    This can be the case sometimes but there are varying degrees of intent in funding research.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharper View Post
    The first IPCC report predicted 6cm per decade, 65cm by 2100.

    How many metres is that SAT?
    Funny how you now quote the lowest estimate whereas at the time all the warmies were quoting the high estimate and saying even that was conservative. To refresh your memory the first IPCC report predicted an upper level of 16 cm per decade. That's 1.6 metres in 100 years which even you should notice is slightly more than the current projection of 10 cm in 100 years btw My figure of several meters came from your guru James Hansen who said in New Scientist in 2007
    I find it almost inconceivable that "business as usual" climate change will not result in a rise in sea level measured in metres within a century.
    Hansen suggests that sea level rise on the order of 5 meters this century is likely. As this flies in the face of the AGW consensus would you now label Hansen a denier especially as in arriving at his conclusion he trashed the accuracy of the climate models, all of which disagree with him. Furthermore whilst testifying in a case in California re emissions he was embarrassed to have to admit he could not name a single glaciologist who agreed with him on this matter. Surely he being so far from the consensus must make him the number one denier in your book.

    Anyway it is good to see you seem to be in agreement that sea-level rise is not going to be the end of the world event once forecasted. Now can you remind me again what are we supposed to be worried about now instead?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAD1OH View Post
    This can be the case sometimes but there are varying degrees of intent in funding research.
    LMAO You painted yourself into a corner on that one
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    Greenland ice sheet melt accelerating.

    Greenland's Ice Feels the Heat in Record-Setting 2010 - NYTimes.com

    Meanwhile, the southern Greenland community of Narsarssuaq recorded its warmest-ever winter and spring, warmest May, and warmest year since observations began in 1951. The town of Aasiat in western Greenland saw its warmest year, winter, spring, and months of May and June since record keeping started in 1951.

    But that unusual warmth is just the beginning of the story of what happened last year, Tedesco said.

    Greenland's annual melt began earlier than normal last spring. As that melt reduced the amount of snow on the ice surface, it also "aged" the snow that remained so it became less reflective and absorbed more heat from the sun -- accelerating the melting further.
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