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    Quote Originally Posted by Itsalaugh View Post
    Great news that everyone can agree on as energy transformation is nye.
    Oil industry on borrowed time as switch to gas and solar accelerates - Telegraph
    Read the comments underneath the main article.
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    Climate change is on the way. I can see evidence here. We had a dry summer but the grass was never burned.



    Surprise! Glaciers appearing in Scotland
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    Ben Nevis

    Story submitted by Eric Worrall

    British Botanists conducting a Summer survey of Scotland’s tallest mountain, Ben Nevis, have been stunned to find evidence of recently formed multi-year ice fields, areas of compacted snow, some of which weigh hundreds of tons.

    According to the BBC;

    “Hazards common in arctic and alpine areas but described as “extremely unusual” in the UK during the summer have been found on Ben Nevis.

    A team of climbers and scientists investigating the mountain’s North Face said snowfields remained in many gullies and upper scree slopes.

    On these fields, they have come across compacted, dense, ice hard snow call neve.

    Neve is the first stage in the formation of glaciers, the team said.”

    The team has also encountered sheets of snow weighing hundreds of tonnes and tunnels and fissures known as bergschrunds.

    Source: BBC News - Glacier-like hazards found on Ben Nevis

    This is how ice ages start – a buildup of snow which does not melt in the Summer, which leads to a positive feedback loop, as the growing ice sheet reflects more and more sunlight back into space.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agnotologist View Post
    Why do repeat these lies?

    - Bishop Hill blog - It's true!

    Apr 13, 2010EnergyGreens

    Regular readers may recall a short piece I posted a few weeks back in which a correspondent alerted me to the potential for fraud in the solar power industry. The prices paid for green energy were so high that it appeared to be profitable to generate that energy by shining conventionally fuelled arclights on the solar panels.

    Although the exact details are slightly different there is now an intriguing report of the scam in practice. The text is based on a machine translation of the originalGerman text:

    After press reports, it was established during inspections that several solar power plants were generating current and feeding it into the net at night. To simulate a larger installation capacity, the operators connected diesel generators.

    "This is just the tip of the iceberg," said one industry expert to the newspaper "El Mundo", which brought the scandal to light. If solar systems apparently produce current in the dark, will be noticed sooner or later. However, if electricity generators were connected during daytime, the swindle would hardly be noticed.
    http://www.aargauerzeitung.ch/wirtsc...flogen-7698402

    As I said last time around, this is the insanity of greenery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trainwreck View Post
    No, it is true. There has been massive scandal and waste in Spain.



    as is so often requested of you "sceptics." Prove it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by valamhic View Post
    The benefits of solar energy are overplayed. It is useful for use within buildings such as heating water for washing and shaving. It would need very expensive plumbing changes to allow it to maintain water in a heating system at above ambient temperature. As for production of home electricity, not much addition even with batteries. Certainly a direct current lighting system would work, but only a little. As for battery technology, that is hugely destructive where rare earths are mined. It is a shame to hastilly extract these
    elements.
    Where does this stupidity come from, val? If electricity from solar is useful for pwering some needs. then it is equally useful for all requirements.
    It needs no plumbing changes and there are millions of homes that are now powered solely by solar installations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agnotologist View Post
    as is so often requested of you "sceptics." Prove it!
    See above.

    Here is another report, from The Ecologist - now you can't brand that loony Green publication as being "Big Oil":

    News - Spanish nighttime solar energy fraud

    Authorities in Spain have launched an investigation into solar energy installations that have been selling electricity apparently generated at night.

    The Spanish government called on the National Energy Commission (CNE) to look into the matter after a newspaper investigation discovered irregularities in the times at which solar energy was being generated.

    Spanish newspaper El Mundo found that between November and January, 4500 megawatt hours (MWh) of solar energy were sold to the electricity grid between midnight and seven in the morning.
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    Glacier-like hazards found on Ben Nevis




    Experts are investigating the North Face of Ben Nevis
    Hazards common in arctic and alpine areas but described as "extremely unusual" in the UK during the summer have been found on Ben Nevis.
    A team of climbers and scientists investigating the mountain's North Face said snowfields remained in many gullies and upper scree slopes.

    On these fields, they have come across compacted, dense, ice hard snow call neve.

    Neve is the first stage in the formation of glaciers, the team said.

    The team has also encountered sheets of snow weighing hundreds of tonnes and tunnels and fissures known as bergschrunds.

    The large, deep cracks in the ice are found at the top of glaciers.
    The team of mountaineers, geologists and botanists is recording wildlife and rock forms on the North Face.

    Scottish Natural Heritage (SNH), Midland Valley Exploration and the Nevis Partnership, an organisation based at Torlundy, near Fort William, are involved in the three-year project.

    So far, many new populations of rare fauna such as highland saxifrage, tufted saxifrage and wavy meadow grass have been recorded.
    Lead survey botanist, Ian Strachan, said: "Many of the rare arctic-alpine species we are searching for are relics from soon after the last ice age.
    "Ben Nevis and a few other peaks in the Scottish Highlands provide the most southerly refuge for some of these species which can only survive due to the altitude and presence of semi-permanent snow fields."

    Cathy Mayne, of SNH, said work so far had exceeded the project team's expectations.
    She said: "Not only have we gathered potentially ground-breaking geological data and significantly added to the known populations of arctic-alpine species, the team have also discovered alpine saxifrage, which has never been found on the mountain before."
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    The 50-50 argument | Climate Etc.

    Posted on August 24, 2014 | 321 Comments

    by Judith Curry

    Pick one:

    a) Warming since 1950 is predominantly (more than 50%) caused by humans.

    b) Warming since 1950 is predominantly caused by natural processes.
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    .... we have a situation where the only change in forcing is anthropogenic and in which the system has warmed so as to retain energy balance. Is the warming :

    1.Mostly – or all – natural.
    2.Mostly – or all – anthropogenic.
    3.Both natural and anthropogenic.
    4.Neither.
    5.It’s just too complex to really describe in such a simple way.
    6.Stop writing posts that don’t make any sense and just confuse everyone.


    Reader, peruse and select:

    A thought experiment | …and Then There's Physics
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    Sadly, some scientists are taking the p*ss out of Anthony Watts' attempts at science ....

    When your major “paper” is so contemptible that people don’t even remember to mock it on time, you’ll probably be reduced to publishing cartoons. Oh, wait.

    Happy Second Birthday to Watts

    Fergus Brown
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    2014/08/19

    By astonishing coincidence, this is also the Nth anniversary of my wold-shattering announcement that I intent to produce a paper/essay/blog post which demonstrates incontrovertibly that there are reasonable grounds to be skeptical about (insert your obsession here). Go figure!
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