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    Quote Originally Posted by kront999 View Post
    Always the same distortion and lies...



    This graph has been spooking on some websites like "Wattsupwiththat" for a while

    If we follow the sources again we can see that the data for temperature are coming from Christopher R. Scotese who is investigating tectonic plate movement over the last billions of years. So his involvement in climatology is probably very limited. He published a rough graph of global temperatures over a period of the last 2 billion years on his website.



    The rise of the present time has just been cut out by the creators of kront's graph. But mostly important: The time scale is not linear. Or do you see any time data there? Look yourself when the all the periods start and end. This graph is therefore inappropriate to use for a comparison with a linear graph, even if you're trying to squeeze it in.

    The data for atmospheric CO2 are taken from another study, A REVISED MODEL OF ATMOSPHERIC CO2 OVER PHANEROZOIC TIME [the last 542 million years], ROBERT A. BERNER and ZAVARETH KOTHAVALA, Department of Geology and Geophysics, Yale University.



    What the deniers are doing is overlapping a non-linear graph with a line of another linear graph. Informative value = zero. But that's not what deniers want. They want to distract you, misinform you and feed you with false conclusions of fabricated graphs and/or data.

    So here a graph which shows different studies on CO2 and temperature over the last 550 million years.



    And as scientists can better track the more recent time, here a graph of the last 400,000 years.


    Temperature change (blue) and carbon dioxide change (red)
    => NOAA - Temperature change and carbon dioxide change
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    Quote Originally Posted by kront999 View Post
    “Yawn”

    UK Met Service
    “Yawn”

    UK Met Service goes on:

    Nevertheless, recent studies have suggested an increase in the intensity of Atlantic storms that take a more southerly track, typical of this winter's extreme weather. There is also an increasing body of evidence that shows that extreme daily rainfall rates are becoming more intense, and that the rate of increase is consistent with what is expected from the fundamental physics of a warming world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirCharles View Post
    You show your selective attention, kront. In other words: chery picking
    Unlike yourself whose posts are always balanced.....
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    You show your selective attention, kront. In other words: cherry picking
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirCharles View Post
    Always the same distortion and lies...



    This graph has been spooking on some websites like "Wattsupwiththat" for a while

    If we follow the sources again we can see that the data for temperature are coming from Christopher R. Scotese who is investigating tectonic plate movement over the last billions of years. So his involvement in climatology is probably very limited. He published a rough graph of global temperatures over a period of the last 2 billion years on his website.



    The rise of the present time has just been cut out by the creators of kront's graph. But mostly important: The time scale is not linear. Or do you see any time data there? Look yourself when the all the periods start and end. This graph is therefore inappropriate to use for a comparison with a linear graph, even if you're trying to squeeze it in.

    The data for atmospheric CO2 are taken from another study, A REVISED MODEL OF ATMOSPHERIC CO2 OVER PHANEROZOIC TIME [the last 542 million years], ROBERT A. BERNER and ZAVARETH KOTHAVALA, Department of Geology and Geophysics, Yale University.



    What the deniers are doing is overlapping a non-linear graph with a line of another linear graph. Informative value = zero. But that's not what deniers want. They want to distract you, misinform you and feed you with false conclusions of fabricated graphs and/or data.

    So here a graph which shows different studies on CO2 and temperature over the last 550 million years.



    And as scientists can better track the more recent time, here a graph of the last 400,000 years.


    Temperature change (blue) and carbon dioxide change (red)
    => NOAA - Temperature change and carbon dioxide change
    Do you agree that it has been warmer in past earth history than now or do you wish to deny that fact!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kront999 View Post
    Denier
    I know you are...

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cylon View Post
    Unlike yourself whose posts are always balanced.....
    At least based on credible evidence and facts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirCharles View Post
    “Yawn”

    UK Met Service goes on:

    Nevertheless, recent studies have suggested an increase in the intensity of Atlantic storms that take a more southerly track, typical of this winter's extreme weather. There is also an increasing body of evidence that shows that extreme daily rainfall rates are becoming more intense, and that the rate of increase is consistent with what is expected from the fundamental physics of a warming world.
    “Yawn” weather

    UK Met Service


    As yet, there is no definitive answer on the possible contribution of climate change to the
    recent storminess, rainfall amounts and the consequent flooding. This is in part due to the
    highly variable nature of UK weather and climate.

    or do you deny this fact!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kront999 View Post
    Do you agree that it has been warmer in past earth history than now or do you wish to deny that fact!
    If this was a question you should have finished it with a question mark...

    But tell me: What have hotter global temperatures millions of years ago to do with modern rapid anthropogenic global warming?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kront999 View Post
    “Yawn” weather

    UK Met Service




    or do you deny this fact!
    As I said: selective attention

    “Yawn”
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