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    Quote Originally Posted by oneshotleft View Post
    Another way to watch climate change not happen.







    Folsom Lake Live Camera Page
    If you had bothered to look at the Marina Home Page you will find this message:

    Letters to our slip renters about our season this year will not be mailed out until at least the middle of March. Currently our snow pack is at the level of the winter of 76/77, which is not good. Once we have a better idea about what the water levels will be this summer and how the marina will be able to operate we will send the letters.

    YOu might also have found this picture of the lake in 2007, and 2007-2008 were also low rainfall years in California.


    In fact 2010 was the only year in the last 8 when the average annual rainfall was above the 1901-2000 norm. Since 2010 was an El Nino year, an El Nino later in 2014 would be good for California, for a while anyway.

    The drought is probably linked to the number of La Nina in the last 8 years, though the rising temperature from climate change has certainly influenced duration and severity (as Gleick points out in the above post).
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    Picture of Lake Folsom from KQED News, California, Jan 8th 2014.


    How Much Water Do Californians Use And What Does A 20 Percent Cut Look Like? | The Lowdown
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    Are Britain's Tories deniers of climate change?

    Their Defence Secretary claims not - the Government have identified it (he says) as a strategic national security issue.


    No wonder Lord Lawson is doing his nut and sounding more shrill and desperate than ever. However, I still get the impression the Tories are dodging the issue.
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    A good explantion of settled science.


    Can science ever be
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    Quote Originally Posted by owedtojoy View Post
    Are Britain's Tories deniers of climate change?
    Why would you care, you live in Ireland and overuse the D word.

    NB: Looks like Irish RU is headed for another low with Brian O only having one game left to play.
    Could be some wooden spoon years ahead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aggrotologist View Post
    A good explantion[sic] of settled science.
    Can't you even write one line without making a stupid typo?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aggrotologist View Post
    I gather you completely missed the point of the cartoon, because it fits perfectly in the grand scheme of settled catastrophic anthropogenic global warming science.

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    From the link:
    It’s a hard figure to quantify, and estimates vary widely. For one, while indoor residential water use is relatively steady throughout the state, outdoor use — primarily for landscape irrigation — varies dramatically, with homes in arid inland regions consuming significantly more water than those in coastal areas.
    “There are large variations across the state,” notes Peter Bostrom from the California Department of Water Resources. “Outdoor use could be 25 percent [of a household's use] in Santa Cruz and 80 percent is Coachella … 15 percent of users account for 60 percent of overuse in landscape irrigation.”
    Humans could easily manage droughts, by simply using less water, especially on gardens.

    It reminds me of a holiday we took in southern Spain, in 1973, when water was rationed there.
    When we arrived, I rented an apartment in a small block, which was allowed to fill its tank once a night, but every morning there was no water.
    I soon discovered why, the gardener used it all up between 06:00 and 08:00, so we had to get up earlier, smell, or rely on sea water for bathing.

    Where we live now, our water is delivered by a 21 m3 tanker truck and precipitation.
    Last year, we had one delivery by truck, the rest by Nature, but this year looks like being a more 'normal' year for rain in Spain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aggrotologist View Post
    I have just finished ... a long article on wind power and the misrepresenting of subsidies.
    But you're unable to provide a link to the article, because?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aggrotologist View Post
    And subsidies for conservation are really subsidies?
    I'm sure there's a clue in that line somewhere.

    Oh, yes, it's in the word "subsidies" you must have overlooked.

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    Try reading this article on how your local environment is (mis)managed, especially the “tree canopy” debacle:

    Aftermath of the ice storm in Toronto: an environmentally friendly Christmas

    Toronto Hydro: 12 days of Christmas and an ice storm

    With most residents of Ontario now reconnected to the grid after the ice storm, perhaps it’s time to have a look at how well the crisis was handled by various parties. This review focuses on Toronto, the Liberal stronghold, where about 60% of those who suffered without power live.
    Wind Concerns Ontario Blog: Aftermath of the ice storm in Toronto: an environmentally friendly Christmas
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    More news from Ontario, where farm owners (on the make) are happy to host wind farms:

    One in, one out: but farm owners persist in belief that wind "farms" aren't hurting anyone

    Here from the current edition of Farmers Forum, interview with two Ontario farmers: one who reacted to community concerns about wind turbines on his property, and the other, who says they don't cause any problems and he'd be happy to host several. (Note: the North Gower area farmer who says he'd like a "couple" and who advises to keep the wind farms "small" was in fact leasing land for a 20-megawatt project near Ottawa, that would have affected over 1,000 families and, had it received a FIT contract, cost the people of Ontario $4.8 million and year, or $96 million over the life of the contract. Some "small.")
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