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    How the ipcc hid the good news on global warming

    "Climate scientists tend to assume that their models produce realistic estimates of climate sensitivity if they produce simulated climates that match observations over the instrumental period. However, there is no scientific basis for this assumption. An experienced team of climate modellers has written that models can be made to match observations in many different ways, each with substantially different climate sensitivities.

    They also say that good matching between GCM simulations and observations of global temperatures a very common test, cited approvingly in the AR4 report as proving model skill actually proves little.
    A lot of the recent public attention has been focussed on the slowdown of global warming in the last 15 years, which the climate models failed to predict. Defenders of the models tend to admit that models have difficulties with natural fluctuations in the climate that last for 10 to 15 years. However, the situation is much worse. Virtually all the models that the IPCC uses in its report have been running too hot over the last 35 years as well, long enough to judge them on a climatic time scale:

    see Figure 3 below




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    Figure 3:Modelled versus observed decadal global surface temperature trend 1979–2013 Temperature trends in ◦C/decade. Virtually all model climates warmed much faster than the real climate over the last 35 years. Source:Two Minutes to Midnight « Climate Audit. Models with multiple runs have separate boxplots; models with single runs are grouped together in the boxplot marked ‘singleton’. The orange boxplot at the right combines all model runs together. The default settings in the R boxplot function have been used; the end of the boxes represent the 25th and 75th percentiles. The red dotted line shows the actual trend in global surface temperature over the same period per the HadCRUT4 observational data set.


    http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpre...tive-final.pdf


    Really worth the read, unless you're anti-science or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by owedtojoy View Post
    You know what would be great...If they made a strip, just like that, only in this one they write something funny...you know like in a joke...that would be awesome.
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    "Great Lakes Ice Cover reached 91.8% yesterday, after Wednesday’s coverage of 91% made 2014 the second highest maximum on record. Great Lakes Ice Cover is well within striking distance of the highest maximum on record of 94.7% set in 1979."




    "For those of you who like to watch Global Warming not happening, in real time, we are pleased to introduce WUWT’s newest addition, the WUWT Great Lakes Ice Reference Page. "

    Ha!


    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/03/0...e/#more-104403
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    Quote Originally Posted by oneshotleft View Post
    So if a Meteorologist agrees with you, you post it.

    If a Meteorologist disagrees with you, Meteorologist are not qualified to comment, and you try to trash their reputation(s).

    Your hypocrisy is so transparent, it's a wonder your own Mirror doesn't slap you out of embarrassment.
    Scott Mandia.

    Scott A. Mandia is professor of Earth and space sciences and assistant chair of the Physical Sciences Department[1] at Suffolk County Community College, Long Island, New York, USA. He has been teaching introductory meteorology and climatology courses for 22 years. He received his M.S. – Meteorology from the Pennsylvania State University in 1990 and his B.S. – Meteorology from University of Lowell in 1987. In 1997, he won the State University of New York Chancellor’s Award for Excellence in Teaching.[2]

    Your meteorologist? Watts? Who does not have any qualification.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trainwreck View Post
    That is just stupid and betrays an ignorance of the difference between risk and uncertainty.

    If we are dealing with uncertainty then we don't know we are more exposed on the negative than the positive side. Uncertainty means lack of information on which to render judgement.

    Unless he was saying we have certainty on the positive side of potential outcomes but uncertainty on the negative side. But that again is just stupid.
    Duh! Professor Richard Alley does not knoe the difference between risk and uncertainty. He had better rewrite all those peer reviewed papers and have Braindreck edit them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oneshotleft View Post
    "Great Lakes Ice Cover reached 91.8% yesterday, after Wednesday’s coverage of 91% made 2014 the second highest maximum on record. Great Lakes Ice Cover is well within striking distance of the highest maximum on record of 94.7% set in 1979."




    "For those of you who like to watch Global Warming not happening, in real time, we are pleased to introduce WUWT’s newest addition, the WUWT Great Lakes Ice Reference Page. "

    Ha!


    Introducing the WUWT Great Lakes Ice Reference Page | Watts Up With That?
    I don't suppose that whatisname told you that records only go back to 1973? That is, they only have records since the warming began. The Lakes were completely frozen many times before that.

    I don't think I ever saw a commentary earlier than 1973 but I do know from insuring shipping on the lakes, that people talked of the freeze over earler than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trainwreck View Post
    Just who are the bad guys? An article from one of our best exports, Phelim McAleer

    Chevron’s landmark lawsuit exposes ‘greenmail’ | New York Post



    Some awesome stuff. This kicked off when a "documentary maker" lost his court battle to try and withhold 600 hours of footage he had taken of Donziger - presumably because it was potenitally incriminating. Hell yeah it was incriminating:









    One to watch.

    Chevron vs Big Green: Capitalism Finally Grows a Pair
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    If you post this as interesting, then it is interesting. if you post it as something to do with climate change, then it is of no interest. If you think it has anything to do with environmentalism in general, yen I suggest you read again.

    What it is is a finding by a US Court that the conclusion of an Ecuadorian Court was wrong and based on perjured evidence.

    However, that is the decision of an Ecuadorian Court and, unless it is appealed successfully in Ecuador, the judgement stands. Not only Ecuador could enforce it or take action against Chevron. Its assets in certain other countries would be at risk of seizure.
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