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    Quote Originally Posted by Agnotologist View Post
    You have no clue as to what you are reading.
    Ah now Agno that is a bit rich coming from you bearing in mind the BBC article that you completely misunderstood. Meanwhile how are you coping in Ontario?

    I hope you are not burning too many trees since you probably don't use oil, coal or gas provided by those horrible fossil fuel companies to keep your family warm?

    Warnings
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    Extreme wind chills from minus 30 to minus 40 today and tonight.

    Frigid and strong westerly winds are producing widespread dangerous wind chills of minus 30 to minus 40 today and tonight.

    Extreme caution is advised for people heading outdoors. Exposed skin may freeze in less than 5 minutes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iarmuid View Post
    The process driving that particular "meme" among many others is simple, according to Darriulat it works at the political / science interface, ultimately corrupting and distorting the later.



    Professor Pierre Darriulat

    The process ends at the point where extremists are left ACTUALLY believing their whack job notions (e.g. hundreds of thousand of deaths can be attributed to AGW) are supported by the "Science".
    Some mothers do have 'em!

    Darriulat and the investigation:

    Energy and Climate Change committee: new inquiry: IPCC 5th Assessment Review – Stoat
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iarmuid View Post
    The process driving that particular "meme" among many others is simple, according to Darriulat it works at the political / science interface, ultimately corrupting and distorting the later.



    Professor Pierre Darriulat

    The process ends at the point where extremists are left ACTUALLY believing their whack job notions (e.g. hundreds of thousand of deaths can be attributed to AGW) are supported by the "Science".
    You are just a little presumptuous, are you not? How the Hell do you know what I read. Not that it matters.

    And, what I posted about Maslowski is the fcat. He siad +/- three. You cite an answer to a question not the work. That was simply an observation on the drastic loss of ice two years later than his base for his paper.

    You still try to hang your hat on misrpresentation.

    Not that it is surprising since you have nothing else. Look it up for yourself. Do like those of us who have some integrity do. Read the paper, or at least the abstract.

    "You can argue" is not a prediction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by realist View Post
    Ah now Agno that is a bit rich coming from you bearing in mind the BBC article that you completely misunderstood. Meanwhile how are you coping in Ontario?

    I hope you are not burning too many trees since you probably don't use oil, coal or gas provided by those horrible fossil fuel companies to keep your family warm?


    Alerts for: City of Toronto - Environment Canada
    Indeed, the temperature this morning was -23 - three degrees warmer than the record low some sixty years ago. Wind chill -39 caused by the Global Warming shift of the Polar Vortex. I have experienced much colder than that in other areas of Canada long before Global Warming became an issue.

    Ontario, btw, has a programme for planting tens of millions of new trees as part of its CO2 reduction strategy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by realist View Post
    You are completely wrong again. It was quite clear in the article who said what - in fact Peter Wadhams comment is even highlighted in the article.

    And this is the quote from Maslowski:
    "Our projection of 2013 for the removal of ice in summer is not accounting for the last two minima, in 2005 and 2007," the researcher from the Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey, California, explained to the BBC.

    "So given that fact, you can argue that may be our projection of 2013 is already too conservative."
    BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | Arctic summers ice-free 'by 2013'

    Try reading the article again.
    What would be the point, he has dyslexia and is senile.
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    Antarctic sea ice hit 35-year record high Saturday

    Antarctic sea ice has grown to a record large extent for a second straight year, baffling scientists seeking to understand why this ice is expanding rather than shrinking in a warming world.
    On Saturday, the ice extent reached 19.51 million square kilometers, according to data posted on the National Snow and Ice Data Center Web site. That number bested record high levels set earlier this month and in 2012 (of 19.48 million square kilometers). Records date back to October 1978.


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    Quote Originally Posted by owedtojoy View Post
    Re-read the post.

    The Met Office statement is concerned with the UK only, the post with the planet as a whole.

    And there are an increasing output of papers that are connecting storms with global warming. As the Met Office said, it is a very active research area ...

    Increasing destructiveness of tropical cyclones over the past 30[thinsp]years : Abstract : Nature
    Re-Read the bulletin . Specifically mentions UK storms
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agnotologist View Post
    Indeed, the temperature this morning was -23 - three degrees
    warmer than the record low some sixty years ago. Wind chill -39
    caused by the Global Warming shift of the Polar Vortex. I have
    experienced much colder than that in other areas of Canada
    long before Global Warming became an issue.

    Ontario, btw, has a programme for planting tens of millions of
    new trees as part of its CO2 reduction strategy.
    So what caused the shift in the Polar Vortex sixty years ago?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agnotologist View Post
    .. caused by the Global Warming shift of the Polar Vortex. ...

    You are drowning in your own bullshyte my friend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by realist View Post
    Ah now Agno that is a bit rich coming from you bearing in mind the BBC article that you completely misunderstood. Meanwhile how are you coping in Ontario?

    I hope you are not burning too many trees since you probably don't use oil, coal or gas provided by those horrible fossil fuel companies to keep your family warm?


    Alerts for: City of Toronto - Environment Canada

    It is indeed extremely cold.
    A bigger issue is the dire state of the province's finances, largely due to the 'Green Energy Act'.
    Billions have been spent on useless solar panels and windmills, with the result electricity prices have doubled in recent years and are set to double again. Can you imagine people unfortunate enough to have to heat their homes with electricity at these temperatures?
    People are literally having to go to bed wearing winter coats.
    And manufacturing is quite literally fleeing the province.

    A province of 13M people is currently around $260 Billion in debt, with annual deficits around $12 Billion.
    That's about $20,000 debt for every man, woman and child in the province - and growing, with the eco-mentalists responsible for a good chunk of it. As always the poor suffer most.
    Not a good situation.
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