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    PopModal The Conservative Alternative to YouTube - Global Warming Attacks South Park

    Its around here on another thread.
    But this is a good home too.
    Its only a chat, we ain't the world council.
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    The number of skeptics is swelling everywhere.

    Steve Fielding recently asked the Obama administration to reassure him on the science of man-made global warming. When the administration proved unhelpful, Mr. Fielding decided to vote against climate-change legislation.

    If you haven't heard of this politician, it's because he's a member of the Australian Senate. As the U.S. House of Representatives prepares to pass a climate-change bill, the Australian Parliament is preparing to kill its own country's carbon-emissions scheme. Why? A growing number of Australian politicians, scientists and citizens once again doubt the science of human-caused global warming.

    The Climate Change Climate Change - WSJ.com
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    The senate democrats have decided to shelve the cap and trade till September rather than suffer a big defeat.


    So Ibis you are stuck paying for my carbon footprint. Thanks a million, I appreciate it

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhonda15 View Post
    Case closed for me.

    Sustainable energy - yes
    Climate Change - no

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    Robert W. Endlich: Let's deal with the facts on global warming

    The notion of man's use of CO2 as a possible driver of climate has been the subject of several recent Letters to the Editor in the Sun-News. Over geologic time. there has been 15 to 25 times more CO2 than current concentrations; the claim that this time we will reach a tipping point is alarmist, ludicrous, and totally without foundation.

    CO2 is a colorless, odorless gas, and essential to life; to regard it as a pollutant is just wrong.

    Let us deal with facts - not activism, alarmism, or hyperbole.

    Robert W. Endlich: Let's deal with the facts on global warming - Silver City Sun-News
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    Meet the man who has exposed the great climate change con trick

    ‘I’m a natural scientist. I’m out there every day, buried up to my neck in sh**, collecting raw data. And that’s why I’m so sceptical of these models, which have nothing to do with science or empiricism but are about torturing the data till it finally confesses. None of them predicted this current period we’re in of global cooling. There is no problem with global warming. It stopped in 1998. The last two years of global cooling have erased nearly 30 years of temperature increase.’

    Australia’s economy is peculiarly vulnerable to the effects of climate change alarmism. ‘Though we have 40 per cent of the world’s uranium, we don’t have nuclear energy. We’re reliant mainly on bucketloads of cheap coal. Eighty per cent of our electricity is coal-generated and clustered around our coalfields are our aluminium producers. The very last thing the Australian economy needs is the cap and trade legislation being proposed by Kevin Rudd. If it gets passed, the country will go broke.’

    Meet the man who has exposed the great climate change con trick | The Spectator
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    Prof Bob Carter gives a good run down here
    [ame=http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1326937617167558947]Professor Bob Carter torpedoes the “scientific consensus” on the climate HOAX[/ame]
    A champion of the people emerges with the age-old and appealing promise of "something for nothing" - to be financed through every-increasing taxes. Supply and demand are thrown out of gear - the overhead goes up; the effective use of human energy goes down; the standard of living is lowered because money cannot buy wealth that is not produced.

    WEAVER, HENRY GRADY,

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    Quote Originally Posted by youngdan View Post
    The senate democrats have decided to shelve the cap and trade till September rather than suffer a big defeat.


    So Ibis you are stuck paying for my carbon footprint. Thanks a million, I appreciate it
    When I'm also footing the bill for your countrymen's inability to understand science, I hope that you will remember your debts. Your children can pay mine what you owe.
    Never let the best be the enemy of the good.

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    We need some form of sticky reference to well researched independent analyses of the Dangerous Climate Change hypothesis. Here are two to start things rolling.

    Garth Paltridge - a highly experience atmospheric physicist and climatologist
    THE CLIMATE CAPER


    Ian Plimer - very respected and extremly well published academic geologist and earth scientist
    HEAVEN AND EARTH Global Warming: The Missing Science

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