The Climate Change Debate Thread

[Tombo]

Any infantile intellect (even global warming skeptics/ deniers like Roy Spencer) understand that the greenhouse effect is what keeps the earth's surface at a balmy current average of ~14C. Otherwise the earth would be 22C cooler on average: down around -8C or less, inimical to life.

FAQ #271: If Greenhouse Gases are such a Small Part of the Atmosphere, How Do They Change Its Temperature? Roy Spencer, Ph. D.

Only deniers are obsessed with the statistics - if they want to disprove global warming, they need to falsify the physical causation paradigm. And by that, I mean with empirical data, not with a blogpost from a denialist website.

Your assignment for today is to explain the difference between:

The greenhouse effect and
the enhaced anthropogenic greenhouse effect.

Not the same thing.

[TheEndIsNigh]

Harvard Professor: ‘Exploit Gulf Disaster For Carbon Tax’

Bilderberger Rogoff openly embraces nightmare scenario of hurricanes pushing oil onshore as a way of “exploiting tragedy” to create political momentum behind Obama’s dreaded green economy

In an opinion piece for the Korea Times, Rogoff sensationally warns that failure to exploit the tragedy for political ends would represent a “lost opportunity,” a startling display of mercenary indiscretion, and a shining example of what we warned about from the very beginning, that elitists would waste little time in pointing to heart-rendering images of oil-covered birds and dead wildlife as part of a crass stunt to push their consumption tax agenda.

[PS] Can good emerge from BP oil spill?

[ibis]

Harvard Professor: ‘Exploit Gulf Disaster For Carbon Tax’

Bilderberger Rogoff openly embraces nightmare scenario of hurricanes pushing oil onshore as a way of “exploiting tragedy” to create political momentum behind Obama’s dreaded green economy

In an opinion piece for the Korea Times, Rogoff sensationally warns that failure to exploit the tragedy for political ends would represent a “lost opportunity,” a startling display of mercenary indiscretion, and a shining example of what we warned about from the very beginning, that elitists would waste little time in pointing to heart-rendering images of oil-covered birds and dead wildlife as part of a crass stunt to push their consumption tax agenda.

[PS] Can good emerge from BP oil spill?

In much the same way, you'll find that a doctor will 'exploit' your smoker's cough or blood clot to encourage you to give up smoking before you get cancer - the barsteward.

[JCR]

Your assignment for today is to explain the difference between:

The greenhouse effect and
the enhaced anthropogenic greenhouse effect.

Not the same thing.

Its simple Tombo f**k sh8T, b%lls, you culty fools etc etc, you don't appear to realise you have slipped up there, funny to watch..its a pity u don't apply your brain to intelligent pursuits, you cult s88thead pr5ck

[Tombo]

In much the same way, you'll find that a doctor will 'exploit' your smoker's cough or blood clot to encourage you to give up smoking before you get cancer - the barsteward.

A doctor will explain that smoking increases you risk of cancer.

A politician will try and exploit what is simply an inflated emotional link between an oil spill and need to make some extremely stupid policy decisions.

[Tombo]

Its simple Tombo f**k sh8T, b%lls, you culty fools etc etc, you don't appear to realise you have slipped up there, funny to watch..its a pity u don't apply your brain to intelligent pursuits, you cult s88thead pr5ck

SO we've established you don't know. What a surprise.

One warmy idiot down.

[owedtojoy]

Harvard Professor: ‘Exploit Gulf Disaster For Carbon Tax’

Bilderberger Rogoff openly embraces nightmare scenario of hurricanes pushing oil onshore as a way of “exploiting tragedy” to create political momentum behind Obama’s dreaded green economy

In an opinion piece for the Korea Times, Rogoff sensationally warns that failure to exploit the tragedy for political ends would represent a “lost opportunity,” a startling display of mercenary indiscretion, and a shining example of what we warned about from the very beginning, that elitists would waste little time in pointing to heart-rendering images of oil-covered birds and dead wildlife as part of a crass stunt to push their consumption tax agenda.

[PS] Can good emerge from BP oil spill?

Oh, how awful!!! We're shocked, SHOCKED! And innocent neo-conservatives did not exploit 9/11 to grab oil resources in the Middle East and make companies like Halliburton a pot of money ..... no, simon-pure those conservatives.

[myksav]

Harvard Professor: ‘Exploit Gulf Disaster For Carbon Tax’

Bilderberger Rogoff openly embraces nightmare scenario of hurricanes pushing oil onshore as a way of “exploiting tragedy” to create political momentum behind Obama’s dreaded green economy

In an opinion piece for the Korea Times, Rogoff sensationally warns that failure to exploit the tragedy for political ends would represent a “lost opportunity,” a startling display of mercenary indiscretion, and a shining example of what we warned about from the very beginning, that elitists would waste little time in pointing to heart-rendering images of oil-covered birds and dead wildlife as part of a crass stunt to push their consumption tax agenda.

[PS] Can good emerge from BP oil spill?

OMG Carbon Tax! We're doomed. Doomed, I tells ya!!
Carbon Tax, The Root of All Evil!!!
Doomed. We're All Doomed!!!!


Is that hyberbolic enough?

[JCR]

SO we've established you don't know. What a surprise.

One warmy idiot down.

Nope, we've established that your contributions are crass and ignorant and a waste of time and space when it comes to debate on this issue, or rather we have observed this. My post, was of course a parody of your ridiculous self. Because your posts could be refered to as a parody of what debate is. Troll.

[TheEndIsNigh]

Stop the Press:

Polar Bears Survived the Ice Free Arctic

WUWT Reader David Penny astutely noted the implication that Polar Bears must have already survived an ice free Arctic in the not too distant past. According to Wikipedia :

…the polar bear diverged from the brown bear, Ursus arctos, roughly 150,000 years ago

That must mean it is OK to take Polar Bears of the endangered species list. But the decision to put them on the list never had anything to do with science anyway.

The other implication of Dr. Meier’s statement is that a warmer, ice free Arctic occurred when CO2 levels were less than 290 ppm. This implies that there is no long term correlation between CO2 and Arctic temperatures.

Polar Bears Survived the Ice Free Arctic | Watts Up With That?

New bear species discovered: Ursus Bogus

New bear species discovered: Ursus Bogus | Watts Up With That?