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Andrew Light of the Centre for American Progress more or less gives the same take on Kyoto and Durban.
http://thinkprogress.org/romm/2011/1...climate-talks/
Andrew Light of the Centre for American Progress more or less gives the same take on Kyoto and Durban.
"A wise man proportions his belief to the evidence" - David Hume
The Guardian highlights that 2011 will be the 11th warmest ever, and the 9th warmest in the GISS record.
Despite warm autumn, 2011 temperatures fail to reach record highs | Environment | guardian.co.ukPhil Jones, director of the Climatic Research Unit at the University of East Anglia, said that due to natural variability, he did not expect to see each year warmer than the last, but the long-term trend was clear. "The HadCRUT3 record [compiled by the Met Office and UEA], supported by the other records, is one indicator among several which provide overwhelming evidence that the climate has warmed," he said. "Independent researchers analysing long term trends of these indicators, have seen an increase in air, sea and land temperatures, rising sea-levels, and decreasing Arctic sea-ice, spring snow cover in the northern hemisphere and glacier extent."
Even the poor ould Torygraph, once a stronghold of global warming denialism, gets in on the act:
Durban Climate Change Conference: 2011 'caps decade tying record for heat' - TelegraphThe year 2011 caps a decade that ties the record as the hottest ever measured, the WMO said in its annual report on climate trends and extreme weather events, unveiled at UN climate talks in Durban, South Africa.
"Our science is solid and it proves unequivocally that the world is warming and that this warming is due to human activities," WMO Secretary-General Michel Jarraud said in a statement, adding that policy-makers should take note of the findings.
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"A wise man proportions his belief to the evidence" - David Hume
Potholer makes a welcome return. Something about a few e-mails?
"A wise man proportions his belief to the evidence" - David Hume
Another visual/ commentary mashup to music, with the theme of the quantum world.
If you think this has no relationship to climate change think again - one of the "12 elementary particles" is the photon of radiation which makes up an extremely important component of our atmosphere. Our planet is heated by the interaction of photons with greenhouse gases like CO2, CH4 and H20.
The guy in the armchair is the late, great Richard Feynmann. His description is a pretty accurate description of the atmosphere.
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"A wise man proportions his belief to the evidence" - David Hume
Humanmade CO2 emissions are not only heating up our planet, they are also the cause of Ocean Acidification: Killing Shellfish Now
November 29, 2011
Yale 360:
Standing on the shores of Netarts Bay in Oregon on a sunny fall morning, it’s hard to imagine that the fate of the oysters being raised here at the Whiskey Creek Shellfish Hatchery is being determined by what came out of smokestacks and tailpipes in the 1960s and ‘70s. But this rural coastal spot and the shellfish it has nurtured for centuries are a bellwether of one of the most palpable changes being caused by global carbon dioxide emissions —ocean acidification.
It was here, from 2006 to 2008, that oyster larvae began dying dramatically, with hatchery owners Mark Wiegardt and his wife, Sue Cudd, experiencing larvae losses of 70 to 80 percent. “Historically we’ve had larvae mortalities,” says Wiegardt, but those deaths were usually related to bacteria. After spending thousands of dollars to disinfect and filter out pathogens, the hatchery’s oyster larvae were still dying.
Finally, the couple enlisted the help of Burke Hales, a biogeochemist and ocean ecologist at Oregon State University. He soon homed in on the carbon chemistry of the water. “My wife sent a few samples in and Hales said someone had screwed up the samples because the [dissolved CO2 gas] level was so ridiculously high,” says Wiegardt, a fourth-generation oyster farmer. But the measurements were accurate. What the Whiskey Creek hatchery was experiencing was acidic seawater, caused by the ocean absorbing excessive amounts of CO2 from the air.
Ocean acidification — which makes it difficult for shellfish, corals, sea urchins, and other creatures to form the shells or calcium-based structures they need to live — was supposed to be a problem of the future. But because of patterns of ocean circulation, Pacific Northwest shellfish are already on the front lines of these potentially devastating changes in ocean chemistry. Colder, more acidic waters are welling up from the depths of the Pacific Ocean and streaming ashore in the fjords, bays, and estuaries of Oregon, Washington, and British Columbia, exacting an environmental and economic toll on the region’s famed oysters.
For the past six years, wild oysters in Willapa Bay, Washington, have failed to reproduce successfully because corrosive waters have prevented oyster larvae from forming shells. Wild oysters in Puget Sound and off the east coast of Vancouver Island also have experienced reproductive failure because of acidic waters. Other wild oyster beds in the Pacific Northwest have sustained losses in recent years at the same time that scientists have been measuring alarmingly corrosive water along the Pacific coast.
"Only when the last tree has died, the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught will we realize that we cannot eat money."
Members of the LaRouche South Africa
grouping are preparing to have a presence at this year's IPCC
genocide conference, being held in Durban, South Africa. The
following leaflet has been produced for circulation among the
thousands of delegates.
UN CLIMATE SUMMIT WILL CAUSE EXTREME WEATHER DISASTERS!
The UN Framework Convention on Climate Change, meeting 28
November to 8 December in Durban, is a continuation of the
British operation to reduce the world's population from 7 billion
to less than one billion people. At this conference, we can
expect strong-arm tactics from British Empire agents against
Eurasian, African, and other developing nations, in attempts to
get agreements for population reduction against their peoples.
You must join with the LaRouche movement in stopping this
dangerous farce!
The dying British Empire is in a war against civilisation.
It is attempting a last-ditch effort to preserve its power over
the world, as its monetary system bites the dust. This offensive
has two fronts: Thermonuclear war, and genocidal population
reduction. Lyndon LaRouche is leading the worldwide opposition
to the British Empire, by calling for the swift removal from
office of U.S. President Obama, a puppet emperor lackey of the
same British Empire that created Adolf Hitler. We must then
institute a new system of international credit led by the three
key nations of Russia, China, and the United States, to replace
the collapsing British global monetary system.
The illegal murder of Muammar Qaddafi earlier this year, as
ordered by the British Empire's own U.S. President Barack Obama,
and now threats against Iran, put us on a fast track to
thermonuclear war. The British Empire today faces the threat
that, as its imperial monetary system collapses, its traditional
enemies Russia and China are continuing to become relatively more
powerful. This is unbearable for the Queen and her consort! The
only solution for the British Monarchy, is to launch general
thermonuclear war against the populations of Eurasia, in order to
quickly initiate population reduction.
As part of the fear factor, expect agents of the Empire to
wave around supposed proof, that Man's economic progress is
causing extreme weather disasters. First, this is a lie. Even
the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) found it
impossible to make that claim in its recent special report,
produced just in time for this pre-failed convention. If any of
the nations agree to the arm-twisting at this convention, then an
escalating increase in death due to extreme weather is inevitable
- because that is the intent of the operation.
In reality, our Solar System, with our Earth along for the
ride, is now passing into a region of the Milky Way galaxy, long
associated with the types of mass extinction events that took out
the dinosaurs. The weakening of the Sun's magnetic field, and
the consequent increasing tendency for weather extremes on our
planet, including the increasing frequency and intensity of
earthquakes and volcanic eruptions, reflect this change in our
cosmic environment.
To deal with this real threat, it were first essential that
we force the British Empire into the dustbin of history, along
with its puppet President Obama, and then launch the types of
economic development required for mastery of our earth and space
environment. We need the rapid development of nuclear power,
such as the Pebble Bed Nuclear Reactor technology recently halted
by the South African government. We need water projects, like
the Trans-Aqua development proposed for the Sahel region for
replenishing Lake Chad. And, we need a revival of vigorous
manned exploration of space, beginning with the Moon and Mars.
We can survive the collapse, but only by discarding the
failed ideas of British environmentalism. So, join LaRouche in
crushing this overgrown baby, the British Empire, and its dumb
but dangerous lackeys at the Climate Change conference, so we can
take on the real challenge that is Man's destiny!
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The extraordinary thing about this shambolic farrago is that it cannot be disproved. Because of that, it is neither scientific or rational. Enough said already.
"A wise man proportions his belief to the evidence" - David Hume
Ok so where are all the "skeptics" that get oh so offended when the anti-science and crazy associations of their movement get brought up? Why is there not a single one available to bring posters like rebellin to task but many that are able to criticise owedtojoy for posting mainstream science?Lyndon LaRouche is leading the worldwide opposition
to the British Empire, by calling for the swift removal from
office of U.S. President Obama, a puppet emperor lackey of the
same British Empire that created Adolf Hitler.
What a manipulative thing to pick out and to quote. And who is "getting bought up" as you say in your post. No one needs to pay anyone to be passionate about stopping the climate change lies. Your "bought up" charge is pure projection in what you fellows on the "climate change" payroll are all about..
The whole post is a leaflet put out by a LaRouche affiliated group in South Africa who are primarily appealing to other delegates of the developing sector who they say will be the victims of strong arm tactics by the British Empire to be used in the deindustrialization and depopulation operations against their own nations. People in Africa know something about how Empires work, Of course, so do people in Ireland, except for those on the Empires' side.
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Well said, notice how the Holocaust denier kerdasi amaq is never called out on his racism by our gallant band of climate science deniers.
To post scientific research on global warming is "alarmist", but to post about imminent natural disaster due to "global cooling" is not alarmist at all. That is the case in deniers' bizarro world.
Similarly, denier Tombo blamed Tuvalu's problems on overpopulation, but rebellin was too chickensh*t to call him out. If you are I mention overpopulation, we are accused of "genocide"!
"A wise man proportions his belief to the evidence" - David Hume
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