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    Mattarigna Mattarigna is offline

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    Was abolishing water charges a mistake?

    This summer, Ireland has experienced a historic drought, and while we didn't have to do anything as drastic as rationing water or anything, it's pretty clear that our water infrastructure is starved for investment, both for investigating leaks, and for updating the pipe network and such.

    Around half of all water that's treated for drinking is wasted via leaks, and at the current rate of inspection, it would take literally 100 years for all the pipes in the system to get inspected and replaced (source).

    The reality is that upgrading our water infrastructure will probably be a long-term project that is going to need consistent funding. Funding that I think could have been provided by a system of water charges, similar to what exist in virtually all other developed countries, and which exist for the parts of the population where local community schemes still oversee the water supply - and who are basically subsidising the cost of water infrastructure maintenance for everyone else as a result.
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    [QUOTE=Mattarigna;12266734]This summer, Ireland has experienced a historic drought, and while we didn't have to do anything as drastic as rationing water or anything, it's pretty clear that our water infrastructure is starved for investment, both for investigating leaks, and for updating the pipe network and such.

    Around half of all water that's treated for drinking is wasted via leaks, and at the current rate of inspection, it would take literally 100 years for all the pipes in the system to get inspected and replaced ([URL="https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/mains

    Yes. It was a mistake. Should never have been permitted in the seventies.
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    Mattarigna Mattarigna is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollandia View Post
    This summer, Ireland has experienced a historic drought, and while we didn't have to do anything as drastic as rationing water or anything, it's pretty clear that our water infrastructure is starved for investment, both for investigating leaks, and for updating the pipe network and such.

    Around half of all water that's treated for drinking is wasted via leaks, and at the current rate of inspection, it would take literally 100 years for all the pipes in the system to get inspected and replaced ([URL="https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/mains

    Yes. It was a mistake. [B]Should never have been permitted in the seventies.[/B]
    What shouldn't?
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    Big mistake. People have no regard for something that is actually regarded as " free " despite the argument that water is being paid for out of general taxation. Like the saying…who washes a hire car ? Hard to believe that the media isn't holding Paul Murphys feet to the fire over this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattarigna View Post
    This summer, Ireland has experienced a historic drought, and while we didn't have to do anything as drastic as rationing water or anything, it's pretty clear that our water infrastructure is starved for investment, both for investigating leaks, and for updating the pipe network and such.

    Around half of all water that's treated for drinking is wasted via leaks, and at the current rate of inspection, it would take literally 100 years for all the pipes in the system to get inspected and replaced (source).

    The reality is that upgrading our water infrastructure will probably be a long-term project that is going to need consistent funding. Funding that I think could have been provided by a system of water charges, similar to what exist in virtually all other developed countries, and which exist for the parts of the population where local community schemes still oversee the water supply - and who are basically subsidising the cost of water infrastructure maintenance for everyone else as a result.
    No, we pay enough taxes.

    Let the rich TDs and their wealthy backers pay for a change, they retire millionaires, after living their lives in gravy and cream
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    Quote Originally Posted by former wesleyan View Post
    Big mistake. People have no regard for something that is actually regarded as " free " despite the argument that water is being paid for out of general taxation. Like the saying…who washes a hire car ? Hard to believe that the media isn't holding Paul Murphys feet to the fire over this.
    Yerra, get up the yard yeh goosestepping blueshirt
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    Quote Originally Posted by RasherHash View Post
    No, we pay enough taxes.

    Let the rich TDs and their wealthy backers pay for a change, they retire millionaires, after living their lives in gravy and cream
    Well, given that wealthier households tend to use more water anyway - with the swimming pools, the car-washing and the lawn maintenance and all - they'd probably pay a greater proportion of water charges anyway.
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    [QUOTE=Mattarigna;12266758]
    Quote Originally Posted by hollandia View Post
    What shouldn't?
    The abolition of water fees, in the form of domestic rates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hollandia View Post
    The abolition of water fees, in the form of domestic rates.
    Ah, right - apologies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hollandia View Post

    Yes. It was a mistake. Should never have been permitted in the seventies.
    Ironic that you should post that on the same day that the death of architect of that wholly unprincipled, but successful FF election winning-stunt is announced. What are the odds?
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