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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattarigna View Post
    Well, given that wealthier households tend to use more water anyway - with the swimming pools, the car-washing and the lawn maintenance and all - they'd probably pay a greater proportion of water charges anyway.
    The ‘working’ class thought Murphy was representing them when he was actually getting the more affluent off the hook. Hilarious!
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnypockets View Post
    The ‘working’ class thought Murphy was representing them when he was actually getting the more affluent off the hook. Hilarious!
    I mean, the bulk of the Water charge boycotts were talking place in working class areas. And I fully understand why the sections of society who were already the worst hit from the Government's policies would see water charges as literally just a way to get extra revenue for the Troika - because let's be fair, since when did FG ever give a sh!t about water conservation before?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pizza Man View Post
    Ironic that you should post that on the same day that the death of architect of that wholly unprincipled, but successful FF election winning-stunt is announced. What are the odds?
    Only 'ironic' in the way that Roy Keane uses the word. And Alanis Morrisette.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattarigna View Post
    AFAIK, there are water rates that Businesses do pay, so they do pay for their water usage.
    I imagine most countries don't have around half of all their treated water been wasted via leaky pipes.
    Is the water infrastructure that serves these businesses any more efficient than that which doesn't?

    Many countries that have charges have huge problems with their water infrastructure. Italy is one of these countries. Money should be spent on fixing leaky pipes instead of wasting it on election promises, but longterm infrastructure projects don't get votes here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattarigna View Post
    Well, given that wealthier households tend to use more water anyway - with the swimming pools, the car-washing and the lawn maintenance and all - they'd probably pay a greater proportion of water charges anyway.
    My point was they should pay them all, see the difference?
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    Mattarigna Mattarigna is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsarbomb View Post
    Is the water infrastructure that serves these businesses any more efficient than that which doesn't?

    Many countries that have charges have huge problems with their water infrastructure. Italy is one of these countries. Money should be spent on fixing leaky pipes instead of wasting it on election promises, but longterm infrastructure projects don't get votes here.
    That seems like a good argument for a regular stream of money that is specifically ring-fenced for water infrastructure. Which water charges are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattarigna View Post

    I imagine most countries don't have around half of all their treated water been wasted via leaky pipes.
    Not up to date; but have a look:-

    https://www.eea.europa.eu/data-and-m...cities-leakage
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    Quote Originally Posted by RasherHash View Post
    My point was they should pay them all, see the difference?
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnypockets View Post
    The ‘working’ class thought Murphy was representing them when he was actually getting the more affluent off the hook. Hilarious!
    Not really, they regarded it as another stealth tax and believe we pay too many stealth taxes already.

    If you want fairness in society then we need equality otherwise the poor, weak and sick take a much greater share of the burden.
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    The parasite classes don’t like paying for stuff.

    The parasites should be offered a choice - pay for water or have your social welfare cut.
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