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    Civic_critic2 Civic_critic2 is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erudite Caveman View Post
    You're deranged.
    Where do you think Ahern's payments in 3 currencies came from? Why do you think Pat Rabbitte strained to represent the Irish offshore to his own population as 'dry as a bone'?

    Why do you think 30,000 troops were in the northern part of your country? Why do you think Ireland was split in half?

    Southerners simply do not have the perspective needed to understand how and for what they are being shafted and their country left undeveloped in very significant ways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erudite Caveman View Post
    You're deranged.
    You shouldn't offer encouragement, leave it to Joe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roberto Jordan View Post
    You should have gathered data on your voyages.....as far as I can recall from my pre-finance days the largest waves in the north atlantic approaches and north sea were in the 50ft range with occasional 60 footers
    On a quick google search, here's a wee example of just how bad North Sea weather can get ....


    footage captures a 100-FOOT monster wave engulf the bow of a ship during a storm in the North Sea
    100-foot wave engulfs the bow of a ship in the North Sea | Daily Mail Online


    No need for me to gather data really ... Google has it covered.,.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Civic_critic2 View Post
    Here's some more information on those dry-as-a-bone Plugged and Abandoned wells Orbit was telling us about:

    12/2-1z [P&A], Dooish
    214m retrograde gas condensate column within Permian & Middle Jurassic continental (fluvial) sandstones. Good quality reservoir, average 14%. Reserves: 265 bcf+ 17 mmbc

    26/28-1 [P&A], Connemara oil field
    "a well testing 5589 barrels per day of good quality, 3238 API oil. The discovery was made in 1979.
    Potential for development of the Connemara field, Block 26/28 | Geological Society, London, Special Publications

    35/8-2 [P&A], Spanish Point
    The Spanish Point discovery (IRL35/8-2) was drilled by Phillips Petroleum in 1981, and flowed circa 1,000 barrels of oil per day (BOPD) and 5 million standard feet of gas per day (MMscf/d) from Upper Jurassic sandstones...the structure mapped on 2D and suggest a contingent resource of up to 200 MMboe.

    The recently completed reservoir simulation (static and dynamic) has modelled peak production rates at over 70,000 BOPD.

    35/8-1 [P&A], Burren oil discovery
    This well encountered 34 API oil bearing Lower Cretaceous sands which tested at circa 700 BOPD. Interpretation of the 3D seismic suggests prospective resources up to 66 MMbbl.
    SOSINA - Spanish Point and Burren

    27/4-1_1z [P&A], Bandon discovery well
    "encountered a 50m gross oil column (15 API) in excellent quality shallow marine to
    estuarine Lower Jurassic sandstones. Bandon discovery (STOIIP 12 mmbbls) has proven a new play.

    http://66668e56d1eda730cf9b-96076914...om/ianvann.pdf

    49/9-2 [P&TA], Helvick
    Flow rates of >6,600 bbl/d were tested from the Helvick discovery.

    49/19-1 [P&A],
    This sequence is characterised by a significant increase in background gas (wet gas C1 to C4) that correlates with the presence of fair and good shales for gas and condensate generation based on average TOC contents of greater than 1%... Gas-condensate generation has occurred based on source richness and expulsion data... Two oil-bearing sequences were encountered in the 49/19-1 well.

    49/29-1 [P&A], 49/30-1 [P&A]
    "...at least two wells (49/29-1 & 49/30-1) have proven oil-prone source rock."

    57/9-1 [P&A]
    "... the Conoco 57/9-1 well, drilled in 1995, tested gas from the Upper Wealden and a small amount of oil from the Lower Wealden in the basin margin zone proving the potential of this zone to trap hydrocarbons migrating out of the basin centre.

    49/23-1 [P&TA]
    The Old Head 49/23-1 gas discovery, located 20 kilometres south-west of and on trend with
    the 49/19-1 structural lead, flowed gas at commercial rates from the Upper Wealden.

    http://www.fastnetoilandgas.com/~/me...nal%2010mb.pdf
    Don't just regurgitate raw data like this. You need to make some effort to interpret it.

    Bottom line, if these are massive quantities of oil then why weren't they exploited? Some of the numbers will give you a clue, like 700 BPD.
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    Like I say ever decreasing circles. These spoofers aren't interested in telling the truth, Orbit was blathering about the Irish coast being 'dry as a bone', now that clearly it isn't dry as a bone and in fact many of the plugged and abandoned wells have significant showings of oil and gas, now it's time to step back and start arguing about how much oil and gas in any given well, etc etc.

    You're a slovenly blatherer who just talks nonsense without even the slightest basic research or you're an astroturfer.

    Clearly the Irish offshore is charged everywhere with oil and gas.

    The Irish management class are in the pocket of outside powers, political and corporate. The Irish people come last. And will continue to come last while they remain in such a state of inert, unaware credulity, to the great destruction of our country - into another century.
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    Even if you're a southerner with a congenital inability to think geostrategically, given the interest of other countries in controlling our development and thus economic and military strength (Britain, its left flank and access to the north Atlantic & NATO access to Britain and Europe, trans-Atlantic supply lines with a non-aligned, anti-imperialist country directly on its flight paths and supply paths) - then outsourcing control over the exploration and development of our oil and gas resources makes no sense domestically for an Irish government.

    Yet that is how they do it, outsource total control to outsiders. Outsource all decision-making over the development of our oil and gas to outside interests. Just as they have in terms of our industrial development to MNCs, which they laud to the public as 'Foreign Direct Investment', while actually retaining the country in a state of outside control and dependency.

    And so they have relied on outside finance to bail out their richest while leaving the rest of the country to face generations of debt and interest payments. And reintroduced absentee landlordism as the price they agreed to.

    Just as they relied on a church headquartered in a foreign country to impose severe social and intellectual sanction on the people while outsourcing most aspects of social welfare to that organisation.

    Just as they have agreed to the [doubtless secret agreement] that Ireland will not militarise, will remain demilitarised and will depend for its air and sea defence on the hegemonic power and former colonial power.

    This is the governing class of Ireland, a management class mediating the management of this strategic resource (our country) between its remaining population and outside powers, for a cut.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Civic_critic2 View Post
    Like I say ever decreasing circles. These spoofers aren't interested in telling the truth, Orbit was blathering about the Irish coast being 'dry as a bone', now that clearly it isn't dry as a bone and in fact many of the plugged and abandoned wells have significant showings of oil and gas, now it's time to step back and start arguing about how much oil and gas in any given well, etc etc.

    You're a slovenly blatherer who just talks nonsense without even the slightest basic research or you're an astroturfer.

    Clearly the Irish offshore is charged everywhere with oil and gas.

    The Irish management class are in the pocket of outside powers, political and corporate. The Irish people come last. And will continue to come last while they remain in such a state of inert, unaware credulity, to the great destruction of our country - into another century.
    There are loads of Providence resources shareholders that would be very interested to hear that what was found in those wells is being kept a secret. I suggest you go to the AGM and let them know.
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    That's about the level of thought you can expect from a southerner, a perfect example of southern superficiality, gombeen concern and cluelessness.

    Even after a 'secret agreement' between the UK and Ireland over allowing the RAF to operate - and shoot - within Irish airspace. And every other piece of evidence that they dutifully turn away from.
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    Foolish and Stupid decision , if we have Oil or Gas off our shores , we shouldget the benefits from it, forget about the air pollution if the Oil or Gas off some other country the Air will still be polluted , so why not let our Government collect a few pounds from it
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    Because it would make us independent, strong and populous and that's a no-no. What if we went off on a solo run like Norway economically while retaining our neutral/non-aligned status and anti-imperialist culture - the only country in the entire north atlantic rim not in NATO and yet one of the most strategically placed for NATO control of the eastern Atlantic...


    This is why the British flooded N. Ireland with troops in the 1970s, not because they wanted to protect nationalists or unionists, to retain control.
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