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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbit v2 View Post
    There shouldn't be any obligation on local authorities to take people's refuse away from beaches. Whatever you bring with you, you should take home again.
    Then take the bins away. Don't have them there if you're not prepared to empty them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sadmal View Post
    It's not only in Cork, it's a problem on every beach or park whenever the sun shines. I go to Dollymount beach regularly and they have huge bins there for rubbish all along the beach. Even with these they are still people too lazy to empty their rubbish in them preferring to leave it where they were sitting.
    I agree, bring it home.

    We went for a walk on the beach this morning, it was very clean (not many people know about it) except for about a half dozen empty Budweiser bottles and I thought - if they can manage to carry full bottles to the beach, why can't they carry empty bottles home?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rural View Post
    I agree, bring it home.

    We went for a walk on the beach this morning, it was very clean (not many people know about it) except for about a half dozen empty Budweiser bottles and I thought - if they can manage to carry full bottles to the beach, why can't they carry empty bottles home?
    It's all to do with having civic pride. My mother and her generation took great pride in their homes and the outside too. Sweeping up outside homes was a regular sight and picking up litter, regardless of who dropped it, was routine. I still do that because it's an old habit by now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ruserious View Post
    Then take the bins away. Don't have them there if you're not prepared to empty them.
    A lot of council have taken away bins, more likely in housing estates than beaches or parks, because people were depositing household rubbish in them. We lost the two bins in our estate and only one remains near a group of shops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ruserious View Post
    Then take the bins away. Don't have them there if you're not prepared to empty them.
    Was once in a park near San Fran. No bins. It's up to people to take home their rubbish. It works. Place was spotless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbit v2 View Post
    There shouldn't be any obligation on local authorities to take people's refuse away from beaches. Whatever you bring with you, you should take home again.
    What are they for if they don't provide services such as the simple task of community maintenance? Are you saying it should be privatised? Or are you saying we should discard the idea of public refuse bins?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Des Quirell View Post
    Was once in a park near San Fran. No bins. It's up to people to take home their rubbish. It works. Place was spotless.
    I was in a park in a different place. There were bins there and people put refuse in them. They were emptied in good time and regularly. That place was spotless too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TedHankey View Post
    What are they for if they don't provide services such as the simple task of community maintenance? Are you saying it should be privatised? Or are you saying we should discard the idea of public refuse bins?
    There's a case for taking bins away from beach areas, because it creates this nanny state mindset where someone else cleans up after the mess you created. In any case, it's ridiculous to expect ordinary litter bins to accept the volumes of waste generated by the littering underclasses at beaches.

    To expand on the point. Local authorities are there for providing certain services more efficiently centrally. Removing waste from a beach isn't one of those services. It's a lot more efficient for people to not bring volumes of crap with them that needs to be disposed, and make them take care of whatever crap they do bring themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Des Quirell View Post
    Was once in a park near San Fran. No bins. It's up to people to take home their rubbish. It works. Place was spotless.
    Yes indeed but in Ireland we have a whole bunch of folk who expect others to do everything for them. Clean up after them, pay taxes so they can do fuk all forever, give them all sorts of free stuff. In American folk are encouraged to do for themselves, in Ireland some folk expect others to do for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bactrian View Post
    Photos show beach left littered with broken bottles and dirty nappies | BreakingNews.ie

    It is astonishing how socially irresponsible some of us Irish are. We go to the beach or a beauty spot and just throw rubbish around . Once we drop it from our hands we seem to think that it is someonelse's problem.

    A few years ago I went to Tarragona in Spain. Over the space of three days on the beach I found 1(one) sweet wrapper on the beach. The Spaniards recognise and value the personal duty to keep their beaches clean.

    Did you notice the sign in Myrtleville which said "Leave Nothing Behind But Your Footprint". The users of the beach seem to have taken that as a challenge to their freedom and right to despoil.
    I was at Portmarnock yesterday; at least half, at least, of the people there were foreign, lots of Brazilians, Vietnamese/Malasians and East Euros.

    Not only an Irish thing seemingly.

    The bins were overflowing.
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