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    Are data centres worth it?



    Ireland has become a hub for data centres in recent years, with tech giants like Amazon, Facebook and Apple all setting up major European data storage facilities. The country is seen as an attractive location for the facilities for a range of reasons, including the cool climate, which reduces running costs for heat-generating computers, its connectivity to the US via transatlantic data cables, and a favourable data-protection regime for tech multinationals. And of course, there is a huge demand for such data centres for the storage of information which is likely to increase exponentially with 5G to replace current 4G technology in the coming years.

    These data centres are huge and employ relatively few people. For instance one at Tallaght is the size of 3 football fields and employs 30 people, so there is an argument to be made about inefficient use of space relative to the area required. There is a more pressing factor, as highlighted in the image above, they consume vast amounts of electricity and according to EirGridís mid-range scenario, 15% of all electricity demand in Ireland will come from data centres by 2026.

    Now the thrust of the journal article is that we will fail to meet renewable energy targets and potential EU fines, but I think the more pertinent question, is why should 15% of expensive electricity generated with unpleasant side effects like pollution and impacts on health, be reserved for a specialist industry that produces very little jobs Is the price of such high tech jobs, as welcome as they may be, far too high using a standard 'bang for your buck' formula, is this an unacceptable example of corporate welfare or is it the right way for the future of high tech jobs and clustering of spin off employment in the knowledge economy from same, for Ireland?

    Data centres are making energy demands shoot up in Ireland
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    Very good points made in your post.. Cork is becoming a hub for these data centres too..

    A pure joke, & paying youngsters pocket change to man their phone lines..
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    They have to be built, and that provides lots of jobs - for a while.

    Short term thinking is endemic in Irish politics.
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    Excellent OP.
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    What the hell is being stored on them anyway? Big data is big brother.
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    Think about this another way. The data centres buy 15% of Irish produced energy. There's a lot of taxes on this energy I guess which can then go towards other spending. It's a free money. We just need to produce clean energy and sell it with profit to these data centres.

    It's a great business to be in.
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    I bet you anything they are hell-holes to work in.

    Data-processors are just a new kind of slave.
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    Well I don't see any issue with this. Other countries allow them, why not us.
    Its not like they are getting free electricity. As for the demand, it will rise nevertheless and we just need to move to Renewable energy by 2026.
    They are here, they pay taxes and they serve local business too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Eagle of the Ninth View Post
    I bet you anything they are hell-holes to work in.

    Data-processors are just a new kind of slave.
    I dont think humans are doing the processing
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMushyStuff View Post
    Well I don't see any issue with this. Other countries allow them, why not us.
    Its not like they are getting free electricity. As for the demand, it will rise nevertheless and we just need to move to Renewable energy by 2026.
    They are here, they pay taxes and they serve local business too.
    If Ireland is the subject of heavy EU fines, and these data centres are using a big chunk of energy, who will end up coughing up for breached targets?
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