Phil Hogan on a roll!

[DaveMc]

Big Phil Hogan is on a roll.

He has seen off the greedy councillors who sought to increase their pay and conditions. He has laid out plans to shed a lot of expensive councillors. He has concluded a deal with the EU that will secure a sensible regime for policing and rehabilitating the rural septic tanks. He has devised a wide ranging system of exemptions to protect the vulnerable from the local charge. He has brought forward a scheme for reforming political funding. He is dumping the electronic voting machines. He has adopted a sensible approach to climate change.

Thank Christ the EU/ IMF are now running the country instead of some brain dead inter county Medel holders who have more ears than brain cells.

[Half Nelson]

Yep, Hogan has oatmeal for brains. This morning on NewsTalk, he said that a desludging of a septic tank would be only €100. It costs €250 where I live. And I shopped around on that price, other prices ranged from €300 to €350.

Is Hogan a waste water, grey and black, engineer? Does he have any qualifications in this area? No, he graduated in Education. Then went straight into politics in '82 on a Council. In '87 he ran for the Dáil, failed and got elected to the Seanad. Basically, he never lost touch with non-political life as he was never involved in non-political life.

His CS advisors in the Department of the Environment don't have a clue either. Nor the muppets who came up with the idea that grey water and black water must go into the same processing. Not one ship that I've worked on ever mixed the two in the same system.

All this is proving my idea that the intelligent Irish left over the past 150 years and left the unintelligent here to breed. It's good that foreigners are immigrating into Ireland, it should improve the intelligence of the population.

Desludging? Is that what it's called? Who offers this service? Is it even a proper service?
I contacted my Council to ask if they could tell me who would empty my tank - "We know but we can't tell you"

Eventually, I contacted a farmer with a slurry spreader, who did it for E170. When I asked what he intended to do with the contents he was fairly vague. I have since learnt of a landowner who spent a day picking unmentionables from his field, where they had been fly-tipped by a 'desludger'.

[Victor Meldrew]

He is a good old fashioned rural parish pump politician. He will bring in precisely zip reforms unless forced to do so. He is from the TD cohort who see constituencies as personal fiefdoms in which favours are dished out for votes.

I laso like PB's comment that he's the new Tom Parlon.

I was very dissapointed that with the heave against Enda in 201o, it was the hick set (and Alan Shatter) who kept Enda there. We could have been such a more dynamic party with some of the younger bods in play.

[harshreality]

Ah dam it I thought this was something to do with jax roll and septic tanks etc

[Bill]

Desludging? Is that what it's called? Who offers this service? Is it even a proper service?
I contacted my Council to ask if they could tell me who would empty my tank - "We know but we can't tell you"

Eventually, I contacted a farmer with a slurry spreader, who did it for E170. When I asked what he intended to do with the contents he was fairly vague. I have since learnt of a landowner who spent a day picking unmentionables from his field, where they had been fly-tipped by a 'desludger'.

you shouldn't be flushing your unmentionables, you should be washing them and reusing them , there's a recession on , haven't heard

[Daniel Plainview]

He is a man who strays. Big effin head see. Big Effin Ego.


Big Phil the enforcer - real Bad news. period. ................but especially for those without one of Enda's golden ff inherited wonga tickets.

[myksav]

Desludging? Is that what it's called? Who offers this service? Is it even a proper service?
I contacted my Council to ask if they could tell me who would empty my tank - "We know but we can't tell you"

Eventually, I contacted a farmer with a slurry spreader, who did it for E170. When I asked what he intended to do with the contents he was fairly vague. I have since learnt of a landowner who spent a day picking unmentionables from his field, where they had been fly-tipped by a 'desludger'.

It's what Hogan calls that which I call maintenance. Get your Yellow Pages and look up Septic Tank Cleaning. My nearest and least expensive costs €250 but they do the whole system properly, tank, pipe, etc. Having seen the "skills" of the Council in road repairs, I wouldn't trust them to wipe themselves, never mind clean a septic tank. At least yours knew, mine went "Huh? Wassat?"

Wouldn't go with a slurry spreader git in a fit. And I've been offered such "services".

[toconn]

How often do you need to clean them ? I haven't a clue , moved over here three yrs ago full time , house was bought seven years ago but built around 2003 . Tank seems to work ok and would have assumed built to proper regs , not so sure now !

[The Field Marshal]

Big Phil Hogan is on a roll.

He has seen off the greedy councillors who sought to increase their pay and conditions. He has laid out plans to shed a lot of expensive councillors.

You mean he has continued in the centralizing of power trends that all his predecessors engaged in and further reduced what is left of so called local democracy.

He has concluded a deal with the EU that will secure a sensible regime for policing and rehabilitating the rural septic tanks.

What deal?

There is no such regime in place.
Indeed there is no money in place to upgrade the unknown numbers of septic tanks that may need upgrading.
Its a totally unknown area.
The cost will run into millions who is going to provide this money?

I ask again what deal has Hogan concluded with Europe?

He has devised a wide ranging system of exemptions to protect the vulnerable from the local charge.

The local charge is not going to work and I guarantee less than 50% of the population will pay it.

He has brought forward a scheme for reforming political funding. He is dumping the electronic voting machines. He has adopted a sensible approach to climate change.

He has not improved local democracy or local accountability.

[myksav]

How often do you need to clean them ? I haven't a clue , moved over here three yrs ago full time , house was bought seven years ago but built around 2003 . Tank seems to work ok and would have assumed built to proper regs , not so sure now !

Mine goes for three to four years depending on usage. We originally built it to exceed the capacity needed for a family of 6. With only three using it now it's got plenty of capacity. Check it every 6 months or so. Specially if your grey water goes into it. Mine is two seperate systems.

When you do get it pumped, leave a bit of the sludge in the bottom, that keeps the bacterial level up to what is needed.

If there's a stream 'below' the soak-away, get it tested upstream and downstream of the tank. That will tell if there's a problem. I've done that a few times and never had a test fail. The only 'stuff' in the water one time was from cattle drinking from the stream well upstream.
If there's no steam, sink a hole 'below' the soak-away and take samples there. Only go down to the same level as the bottom of the soak-away, that's the level that it percolates out.