Do the weather forecasters quoted by the Daily Mail actually exist?

[rash mulligan]

It's a pity this parody thread turned out to be such an embarrassing train wreck.

For you ofcourse. Your original thread was embarrassing. The mileage I got out of this yesterday was unreal bie.

Ireland's shale gas fields have been known since at least 1960 rash, that's over 50 years ago.

Since then not one company has been able to commercialise them.

It's called horizontal drilling Padre Pat. You can get excited now and stop being so morbid.

Them brussels sprouts are depressing ya.

[Destiny's Soldier]

Was John Tyndall a real scientist rash ?

Was John Tyndall a real scientist? Answer: Yes

Did John Tyndall discover the Greenhouse Effect? Answer: No


John Tyndall discovered that polar (gaseous) molecules absorb and emit energy by radiation. That's the end of it.

Although the Irish EPA and the AGW movement have been spinning the story that atmospheric gases radiate more energy upon the Earth than the Sun through a process called the Greenhouse Effect. Tyndall had no such experiment. Nor had Svante Arrhenius in 1896.

The reason the EPA and the AGW movement have to go back to 1860 and 1896 is because no such experiment exists in 2012.

If you had one Pat, you'd have posted it and so would the EPA and all their goons in the AGW movement. So do us all a favour.....


Here's to Fracking and cheap energy for all.

[Pat Gill]

It's called horizontal drilling Padre Pat. You can get excited now and stop being so morbid.

Them brussels sprouts are depressing ya.

rash,

I've forgotten more about hydraulic fracturing than you might yet learn rash.

And sprouts are good for you rash.

[Pat Gill]

Was John Tyndall a real scientist? Answer: Yes

Did John Tyndall discover the Greenhouse Effect? Answer: No


John Tyndall discovered that polar (gaseous) molecules absorb and emit energy by radiation. That's the end of it.

Although the Irish EPA and the AGW movement have been spinning the story that atmospheric gases radiate more energy upon the Earth than the Sun through a process called the Greenhouse Effect. Tyndall had no such experiment. Nor had Svante Arrhenius in 1896.

The reason the EPA and the AGW movement have to go back to 1860 and 1896 is because no such experiment exists in 2012.

If you had one Pat, you'd have posted it and so would the EPA and all their goons in the AGW movement. So do us all a favour.....


Here's to Fracking and cheap energy for all.

Destiny's Soldier,

Let me repeat myself once again, I couldn't give a fiddlers who believes in AGW or why.

Ireland has enough energy problems to keep a small army busy for a lifetime.

The NBP gas futures are beginning to factor imports of US shale gas into contracts for supply in 2015 at $9.40 per MMBTU.

The cheap energy will be coming from a different source than fracking DS

[Pat Gill]

The view from the EU on Shale Gas.

http://ec.europa.eu/energy/studies/d..._in_europe.pdf

[Hugo7]

Mr. Rash, are you one of those people who eat their dinner in the middle of a field?

[PAD1OH]

oh no, my thread on the Daily Fail has been merged with this trainwreck of a thread.

morto.

[owedtojoy]

Was John Tyndall a real scientist? Answer: Yes

Did John Tyndall discover the Greenhouse Effect? Answer: No


John Tyndall discovered that polar (gaseous) molecules absorb and emit energy by radiation. That's the end of it.

Although the Irish EPA and the AGW movement have been spinning the story that atmospheric gases radiate more energy upon the Earth than the Sun through a process called the Greenhouse Effect. Tyndall had no such experiment. Nor had Svante Arrhenius in 1896.

The reason the EPA and the AGW movement have to go back to 1860 and 1896 is because no such experiment exists in 2012.

If you had one Pat, you'd have posted it and so would the EPA and all their goons in the AGW movement. So do us all a favour.....


Here's to Fracking and cheap energy for all.

John Tyndall did not discover the greenhouse effect. He demonstrated that certain gases trap heat, gases like CO2 and methane. His results may have been the most important experimental results obtained by an Irish scientists. One US climatologist wants to rename greenhouse gases as "Tyndall gases".

The Greenhouse Effect was discovered by Svante Arrhenius, who used a sensitive thermometer to measure the solar IR incident on earth. Arrhenius'w work was confirmed in the 20th century by Guy Callendar, Gilbert Plass, and Syukuro Manabe.

Most of the above information is available on the web e.g. RealClimate: Calculating the greenhouse effect

As a clear experimental demonstration, you can see the IR radiation mapped by space satellites are missing the signature wave numbers of CO2, H20, O3 and CH4.



At this point, Deatiny's Soldier beats a hasty retreat, not to be heard form again, until he think its safe to come out and repeat his old lies. Even climate science deniers accept the greenhouse effect warms the planet, except the ones on the absolute lunatic fringe.

[Destiny's Soldier]

John Tyndall did not discover the greenhouse effect.

Terrible isn't it how other Climate Alarmists such as John Gibbons do not share your view.

The Greenhouse Effect was discovered by Svante Arrhenius

More exaggeration for effect. His work was theoretical.

As a clear experimental demonstration, you can see the IR radiation mapped by space satellites are missing the signature wave numbers of CO2, H20, O3 and CH4.

It's obvious you don't really have a scientific backround and you've never used an IR Spectrometer. All the absorbtion bands are there for the above listed gases. They are spelled out in your image. It would seem that you don't know the difference between absorbtion and transmission or else you can't read your own graph.

At this point, Destiny's Soldier beats a hasty retreat, not to be heard form again, until he think its safe to come out and repeat his old lies. Even climate science deniers accept the greenhouse effect warms the planet, except the ones on the absolute lunatic fringe.

The fatuous ramblings from OTJ who fills the pages here day after day with no formal experiment described in any textbook or any IPCC report.

Amazing that there is no experiment where we can see a rise of 33 deg from a body with an emission temp of -18 with CO2 at 0.039% and 1% water vapour.

Then you have the Sun landing 239 W/m2 on the Earth while the atmosphere radiates back down 333 W/2 but the atmosphere gets its energy from the Earth ... (go figure)

Energy from thin air created out of nothing.

The Greenhouse Effect is BS with no experiment to back it up.

[owedtojoy]

Terrible isn't it how other Climate Alarmists such as John Gibbons do not share your view.




More exaggeration for effect. His work was theoretical.



It's obvious you don't really have a scientific backround and you've never used an IR Spectrometer. All the absorbtion bands are there for the above listed gases. They are spelled out in your image. It would seem that you don't know the difference between absorbtion and transmission or else you can't read your own graph.





The fatuous ramblings from OTJ who fills the pages here day after day with no formal experiment described in any textbook or any IPCC report.

Amazing that there is no experiment where we can see a rise of 33 deg from a body with an emission temp of -18 with CO2 at 0.039% and 1% water vapour.

Then you have the Sun landing 239 W/m2 on the Earth while the atmosphere radiates back down 333 W/2 but the atmosphere gets its energy from the Earth ... (go figure)

Energy from thin air created out of nothing.

The Greenhouse Effect is BS with no experiment to back it up.

What is fatuous and rambling is that demand that a scientific theory be back by an experiment in a laboratory.

If Destiny's Soldier can reproduce an atmospheric column 5km high in a laboratory, then I am sure any atmospheric scientist can oblige him.

What is done in laboratories is the classification of the absorption bands of the various gases. There are collated in the HITRAN database, set up by the US Air Force to understand why its heat-seeking missiles work in the atmosphere.

HITRAN

HITRAN is an acronym for high-resolution transmission molecular absorption database. HITRAN is a compilation of spectroscopic parameters that a variety of computer codes use to predict and simulate the transmission and emission of light in the atmosphere. The database is a long-running project started by the Air Force Cambridge Research Laboratories (AFCRL) in the late 1960's in response to the need for detailed knowledge of the infrared properties of the atmosphere.

Next step is to show the laboratory experiments are duplicated and their predictions verified in the atmosphere, using satellite date. See above.

Last step is to show that the actual temperature rise is as predicted by the theory for the volume of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. A good description is found in this paper, which apparently is too complicated for Destiny's Soldier. He would rather wallow in an ignorant obscurantism where even the usual band of science deniers will not join him.

http://geosci.uchicago.edu/~rtp1/pap...odayRT2011.pdf