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    Do Wind Turbines Make Noise?



    Here is some footage of Wind Turbines at Fenner Wind Farm and the sounds we are surround by everyday. You be the judge.
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    Do solar cells cause light pollution?



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    It appears the noise/health issue has exploded again in Donegal see:

    DONEGAL WIND FARM CONTROVERSY: LOCAL GP WARNS OF ‘HEALTH DANGERS’ | Donegal Daily

    DONEGAL WIND FARM CONCERNS GO GLOBAL AS DOCTOR WARNS OF HEALTH CONCERNS | Donegal Daily

    The County Development Plan vote is now fixed for 6 June 2012
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    Quote Originally Posted by Decadance View Post
    It appears the noise/health issue has exploded again in Donegal see:

    DONEGAL WIND FARM CONTROVERSY: LOCAL GP WARNS OF ‘HEALTH DANGERS’ | Donegal Daily

    DONEGAL WIND FARM CONCERNS GO GLOBAL AS DOCTOR WARNS OF HEALTH CONCERNS | Donegal Daily

    The County Development Plan vote is now fixed for 6 June 2012


    “There are NO studies showing that these turbines do not cause any impact on the nearby population including turbine hosts, and an increasing number of adverse health events being reported which show that they do have a negative impact.”
    True for buses and bus drivers.
    True for airlines and pilots.
    True for politics and politicians.
    True for offices and office workers.
    True for medicine and doctors.
    True for newspapers and journalists.
    True for Drinking and drinkers.
    True for dining and diners.
    True............................
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    Quote Originally Posted by EvotingMachine0197 View Post
    I don't think they are ugly.
    What would you find ugly and out of place in the countryside? A s---- on a slate on a rainy day?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Decadance View Post
    It appears the noise/health issue has exploded again in Donegal see:

    DONEGAL WIND FARM CONTROVERSY: LOCAL GP WARNS OF ‘HEALTH DANGERS’ | Donegal Daily

    DONEGAL WIND FARM CONCERNS GO GLOBAL AS DOCTOR WARNS OF HEALTH CONCERNS | Donegal Daily

    The County Development Plan vote is now fixed for 6 June 2012
    Remarkable that the Donegal Daily is working as a mouthpiece for dubious anti wind energy organisations.

    Dr Michael Cooke (they can't even spell the name correctly) is not only biased and cherry-picking out of the journals he is mentioning, alternatively there is no such evidence found in these journals. I couldn't find any article about health impact of noise of wind turbines in The Lancet or The New England Journal of Medicine.

    In the British Medical Journal we can read: Wind turbine noise

    17 reviews on wind turbines and health ... and not a single one referenced.

    ...


    There is generally a lack of peer-reviewed studies for the claims of a few doctors and self=named specialists that the noise of wind turbines would have a negative impact on health.

    But let's take a look behind the scene.

    Who is the Waubra Foundation really?

    Why would the Landscape Guardians (LG) and the IPA contrive to fool the public into thinking that the Waubra Foundation was an independent organisation; an important-sounding “Foundation” no less?. Becasue the IPA is funded by and works in the interest of:

    • BHP Billiton
    • Western Mining
    • Caltex
    • Esso Australia (a subsidiary of Exxon)
    • Shell and Woodside Petroleum
    • The Murdoch Press: News Ltd.



    Waubra Foundation's strategic aim is to undermine green energy projects by:

    • Gaining a place at the table amongst the “medical experts” whenever there is a public debate on health issues relating to wind farms.
    • Running an aggressive campaign to convince locals they have “Wind Turbine Syndrome”.
    • Preventing competition in the energy sector by undermining State Government project approval



    Liberal whistleblower and one-time ministerial adviser to the Howard Government, Dr Guy Pearse, revealed that millions of dollars from Big Carbon were laundered through trusts like the Cormack Foundation to buy Howard’s climate action agenda.

    Anti windfarm astroturfers exposed in Parliament

    The Victorian Department of Health indicated that it had examined both peer-reviewed and validated scientific research and concluded that ‘the weight of evidence indicated that there are no direct health effects from noise.’

    Dr Sarah Laurie’s evidence included evidence from Nina Pierpont, an American general practitioner who claims to be an authority on wind turbine syndrome. Pierpont is the author of a self-published book containing descriptions of the health problems of merely 10 families—that is, 38 people—in five different countries who once lived near wind turbines and who are convinced that turbines made them sick. Medical experts in Australia have said that, given that there are about 100,000 turbines around the world, her sample is too small to have any scientific value. There were no scientific controls, and the symptoms described were common in any community. Dr Laurie also tried to appeal against a proposed wind farm at Allandale East in South Australia. Her appeal failed on the basis of the same evidence from the medical community. Gary Wittert, a professor of medicine at the University of Adelaide, said there was no credible evidence that wind turbines have adverse effects on health. A recent parliamentary inquiry into wind farms in New South Wales dismissed Pierpoint’s study, particularly since her findings were not published in a peer reviewed journal. In its submission to the Senate inquiry the group Doctors for the Environment also agreed ‘there is no convincing evidence in the scientific literature of direct physiological effects occurring at sound levels commonly associated with modern wind turbines’.
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    I have just this very minute come back from a security check of some wind turbines and every time i stand underneath them i am amazed at how little noise come from them. By the way they are fantasctic to look at from directly underneath.
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    Wind Turbines and health: a page of Wind in the Bush

    Contents of this page...

    Introduction
    Noise: the main concern
    Two competing theories
    Health problems without wind farms
    Factors other than sound
    Wind Turbine Syndrome
    Case against turbines unconvincing
    Research into wind turbines and health
    How could turbines make people ill?
    Anecdotal evidence
    Distance between turbines and houses
    Seismic waves from wind turbines
    Doctors for the Environment Australia
    Climate and Health Alliance
    Waubra Foundation
    Blood pressure and turbines
    Opinion from clinical psychologist
    Epidemic Hysteria
    Environmental causes of illness
    Dose
    Attitude
    No sickness in WA and Europe
    Is your car making you ill?
    Links
    Index
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirCharles View Post
    Remarkable that the Donegal Daily is working as a mouthpiece for dubious anti wind energy organisations.
    It took a two minute google search to find these articles. It is quite obvious that wind turbine noise is having an adverse effect on many people living in close proximity to wind farms. Are all of these "anti wind energy organisations"?

    Statistically significant differences were noted in some HRQOL domain scores, with residents living within 2 km of a turbine installation reporting lower overall quality of life, physical quality of life, and environmental quality of life. Those exposed to turbine noise also reported significantly lower sleep quality, and rated their environment as less restful. Our data suggest that wind farm noise can negatively impact facets of HRQOL.
    Evaluating the impact of wind turbine n... [Noise Health. 2011 Sep-Oct] - PubMed - NCBI

    New Danish regulations for wind turbine noise

    Watertown Daily Times | Cape Vincent officials urge tougher wind turbine noise standards

    Neighbors Win Court Round Over Wind Farm Noise - NYTimes.com
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    Quote Originally Posted by amsterdemmetje View Post
    I have just this very minute come back from a security check of some wind turbines and every time i stand underneath them i am amazed at how little noise come from them. By the way they are fantasctic to look at from directly underneath.
    It is a known phenomenon that the noise effect is more pronounced at a distance from the turbines, not underneath them
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