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    Story from Austria, They built a nuclear power plant in 1970's it was ready to go and then they
    had a referendum and it was rejected(50.47%) and Austria is only country in world where it is illegal.
    Since 1978 Austria has a law prohibiting fission reactors for electrical power generation.


    one billion euros down the drain


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    Quote Originally Posted by Éireann go Brách View Post
    Story from Austria, They built a nuclear power plant in 1970's it was ready to go and then they
    had a referendum and it was rejected(50.47%) and Austria is only country in world where it is illegal.
    Since 1978 Austria has a law prohibiting fission reactors for electrical power generation.


    one billion euros down the drain


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    Well. At least they don't have to deal with the aftermath like in Japan.

    There has been much more money burried for nuclear power in Europe, and it's still not on the grid => Olkiluoto: Finlands new nuclear power plant


    The Olkiluoto construction project in Finland is rapidly becoming an example of all that can go wrong in economic terms with nuclear new build. It demonstrates the key problems of construction delays, cost overruns and hidden subsidies.

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    Interesting story in the Financial Times:

    Ex-Areva boss alleges ‘plot’

    January 16, 2012

    Anne Lauvergeon, former head of French state-owned nuclear champion Areva, claimed she was the victim of a “plot” as she defended her role in its disastrous 2007 purchase of a small uranium mining company.

    Speaking in Paris on Monday, Ms Lauvergeon – known in France as “Atomic Anne” because of her central role in the industry – said she had constantly been “destabilised” as Areva’s chief executive.

    She said a campaign against her started in 2007 after she opposed breaking up the group, whose interests span from mining to building atomic reactors.

    She said: “This bothered a certain number of private interests,” adding “it was necessary to bring me down, and for that all means were fine, including the dirtiest”.

    Ms Lauvergeon was eventually ousted by Nicolas Sarkozy, the French president, in 2011 and replaced by her deputy, Luc Oursel.

    However, she returned to the spotlight after Mr Oursel said in December that he was taking a €1.5bn ($1.9bn) writedown on the acquisition of Uramin, a uranium miner, which came on top of a previous €426m charge.

    Areva paid €1.8bn for Uramin, even though it had only been listed on Aim, London’s junior exchange, for two years after floating with a value of £120m.

    The big loss has prompted claims that Areva may have been victim of wrongdoing. But while the Areva board has launched an internal probe there has been no suggestion from it that this was true.

    Ms Lauvergeon and her husband have made a legal complaint against an unnamed individual after it emerged that a Swiss private investigator had tapped her husband’s phones last year while looking into the deal. The investigator found no evidence of wrongdoing related to the deal.

    Ms Lauvergeon insisted that the deal had been “completely transparent” and signed off by all directors, including Mr Oursel, and the French government.

    It made sense at the time, she added, as the country sought to secure supplies of uranium against competition from China, India and Brazil. The price of uranium has since fallen, while Uramin has far lower deposits than expected.
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    The abuse of political power is as dangerous as nuclear power itself (Guardian, 29 Feb 2012)

    The newly evicted protesters against proposed nuclear power stations at Hinkley Point reject both the technology and the flaunting of democracy



    It's been a busy week for the bailiffs. Even as one group was carting people off from the steps of St Paul's in London on Monday night to remove Occupy protesters, so another was storming a Somerset farmhouse early on Wednesday to snuff out a small protest against the proposed two new Hinkley C nuclear power stations.

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    UK nuclear sites at risk of flooding, report shows

    Rising sea levels because of climate change put 12 of 19 sites at risk, unpublished government analysis shows
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    UK "over a barrel" on new nuclear, campaigners warn (13 March 2012)

    Senior green campaigners warn nuclear policy leaves the UK dependent on French companies

    The UK's proposed investment in nuclear power means handing over control of energy policy to France at the same time as shouldering all of the risks associated with new reactors, four of the UK's most eminent environmentalists have warned.

    In an open letter to Prime Minister David Cameron, Jonathan Porritt, Tom Burke, Charles Secrett and Tony Juniper argue plans for eight new nuclear reactors, most of which are set to be built by French companies EDF and Areva, will prove "a massive rip-off for the British taxpayer".

    The government is keen to replace the UK's aging nuclear power plants and last month signed a series of deals with France worth more than £500m to support plans for new reactors.

    Cameron hailed the agreement as being "just the beginning" of co-operation between the two countries on nuclear energy.

    But in today's open letter the four former directors of Friends of the Earth argue that without a strong carbon floor price, which is effectively subsidised by UK taxpayers, the business case for new nuclear power does not stack up.

    Without public funds, the companies – or the French government, which has large stake in both – could decide not to proceed, leaving the UK's plans in ruins, they add.

    They also warn that French operators could use the threat of such a scenario to secure further financial support, which may force up electricity prices for businesses and domestic customers.

    "This is an invitation to EDF to bargain very aggressively for an agreement that transfers the lion's share of the financial risk of new nuclear to British taxpayers and consumers," the letter says. "EDF will have us over a barrel."

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    Older nuclear plants pose safety challenge: IAEA (Tue Mar 13, 2012)

    (Reuters) - Eighty percent of the world's nuclear power plants are more than 20 years old, raising safety concerns, a draft U.N. report says a year after Japan's Fukushima disaster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Éireann go Brách View Post
    Story from Austria, They built a nuclear power plant in 1970's it was ready to go and then they
    had a referendum and it was rejected(50.47%) and Austria is only country in world where it is illegal.
    Since 1978 Austria has a law prohibiting fission reactors for electrical power generation.


    one billion euros down the drain


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    a billion down the drain but their government respected the will of the people.

    If it was Ireland, the referendum would have been repeated until the people delivered the correct answer.

    A billion is a small price to pay to ensure that the democratic will of the electorate is respected.

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    Nuclear power: Against Go and see the death and poison (Waste Management World, March 14, 2012)

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    EDF is above planning law, as seen on local television news recently.

    EDF is allowed to operate without Public Liability Insurance.

    EDF is in business to sell power at any cost.

    EDF tidal surge provision on its existing sites is farcical, not to mention tsunami possibilities. In an emergency the cooling water for the rods has enough backup for three weeks, with diesel generators, which even now are still housed below high water mark, not even up to speed at this level.

    EDF forgot to consult the Parish Council in the village next to Hinkley Point Power Station about Hinkley C, pictured. Evidently there will be no public inquiry into Hinkley C The main decision will be taken by an unelected national Infrastructure Planning Commission, rubber stamping government policy, such intolerable arrogance is not acceptable anymore.

    Berkeley Power Station was granted planning permission to store low-level nuclear waste two years ago, last year they were granted planning permission to store mediumlevel waste, with no public consultation with the people of Lydney 'one mile away' or the Forest of Dean.

    Fukushima, do not forget this situation as it is everywhere. Blind nuclear activity with no evidence of long-term social and economic provision which is clearly needed to deal with the immense task of cleaning up, is madness.

    The exclusion zone in Japan would mean that Bristol, Newport, Cardiff, Gloucester, and Cheltenham would have to evacuate permanently.

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    Wylfa nuclear newbuild favoured by Welsh government as EDF cancels Heysham (Energy and Environmental Management [EAEM] Magazine‎, 15 March 2012)

    The Welsh government has announced that it expects Wales to be fuelled by a diverse range of low-carbon technologies, including nuclear power, just as EDF has cancelled plans for a new nuclear power station at Heysham, Lancashire.

    The French company says it has annulled an agreement with the National Grid to set up any new connection to the grid from Heysham and announced that all its plans for new stations will be focused on their sites at Sizewell and Hinkley Point.

    Meanwhile, Wales expects to deploy new nuclear power at Wylfa on Anglesey as part of its transition to a low carbon economy, according to its new energy strategy, Energy Wales published yesterday.

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    Only: nuclear is not a low carbon energy source.

    Gas ~400 g-CO2e/kWh
    Nuclear ~120 g-CO2e/kWh
    Wind ~12 g-CO2e/kWh
    "Only when the last tree has died, the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught will we realize that we cannot eat money."

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