Poolbeg Incinerator - break clause in contract

[joemomma]

Where's Dublin's waste going now?

To landfill, recycling and composting. If you took all of the waste that the Dublin local authorities currently landfill it won't fill half the capacity of the incinerator. And the quantity is going down.

[Baron von Biffo]

To landfill, recycling and composting. If you took all of the waste that the Dublin local authorities currently landfill it won't fill half the capacity of the incinerator. And the quantity is going down.

Where is the landfill?

[joemomma]

He had nearly 3 months from the time he took office until the contract was signed to stop it if he wanted to but he did nothing.

Paul Cunningham previously reported that he told them not to sign the contract but they did anyway. Apparently they claim to have been legally committed to it since they awarded the tender to Covanta in May 2007.

[Limerick Lad]

Where is the landfill?

Not in Dublin and most definitely not in John Gormley's constituency.

[joemomma]

Where is the landfill?

Kildare and North Dublin, I believe.

[Barnacle]

To landfill, recycling and composting. If you took all of the waste that the Dublin local authorities currently landfill it won't fill half the capacity of the incinerator. And the quantity is going down.

So if it does not fill half the incinerator and they have contracted to fill it, they have to pay for the balance or find it elsewhere. The Break Clause should be the perfect opportunity to get out of the contract. Is there any cost involved in the Break Clause or is it just the parties walking away?

[DaveMc]

??...Don't understand!
If you park the pros and cons of incineration for just a mo!
DCC were following government policy on waste...and it is still government policy...(till Gormley changes it...)


All councils were actively encouraged to seek PPPs...DCC did and this is the result.

Is this not how McNamara got out of the redevelopement of Teresa's gardens?...standard in PPPs I suppose??

Am I wrong??

Maybe i got this all wrong, if I did I am sorry; did DCC state (on RTE and elseware) that the contract was totally binding, and if Gormley stopped the project the taxpayer would be landed with a multi million euro compensation bill? The Primetime programme would suggest that such a claim was a tissue of lies...why would that be I wonder?

[Barnacle]

Apparently they claim to have been legally committed to it since they awarded the tender to Covanta in May 2007.

Thats what I thought although I have not really followed the story in full.

[Tig]

He had nearly 3 months from the time he took office until the contract was signed to stop it if he wanted to but he did nothing. All he's doing now is making a bit of a nuisance of himself and possibly exposing the state to compensation costs for stalling it.

If there is a clause allowing DCC to walk away on Sunday then where would the issue of compensation arise?

And why was this clause never mentioned when DCC was warning that the taxpayer would face multimillion euro fines if the build did not go ahead?

Someone is being...flexible...with the information that they have been putting into the public domain in recent months.

[joemomma]

If there is a clause allowing DCC to walk away on Sunday then where would the issue of compensation arise?

And why was this clause never mentioned when DCC was warning that the taxpayer would face multimillion euro fines if the build did not go ahead?

Someone is being...flexible...with the information that they have been putting into the public domain in recent months.

Oh dear, please don't question the integrity of Dublin City Council. There are a number of posters on here that will assure you that DCC are only capable of acting in good faith, despite the fact that they're the only ones involved in this fiasco to actually have a High Court judgement against them for acting improperly.