Poolbeg Incinerator - break clause in contract

[Baron von Biffo]

I thought they said they didn't need a foreshore licence if they get the CPO?

"Commercial reality" is what will kill this project, whether or not it gets built. It's really a relic of the Bertie era of unrestrained irrational optimism about how fast and how far the economy would grow. Waste volumes are falling and they won't be picking up any time soon, even if we do return to economic growth. The world has moved on and so should Dublin City Council.

There's waste outside Dublin that could be burned there.

[wombat]

There's waste outside Dublin that could be burned there.

That's what Meath is for

[Baron von Biffo]

That's what Meath is for

I once heard Ruairi Quinn talking on the radio about this. He was of the view that Dublin's waste could be burned "Down in the bogs somewhere." Maybe it was the opening shot in his mayoral campaign.

[wombat]

I once heard Ruairi Quinn talking on the radio about this. He was of the view that Dublin's waste could be burned "Down in the bogs somewhere." Maybe it was the opening shot in his mayoral campaign.

Possibly somewhere in your part of the world - maybe mix it in with some of the turf we pay you to burn

[DaveMc]

There's waste outside Dublin that could be burned there.

Feckin brilliant, lets import waste from China, Russia, Wexford, and Bally Kissmyass to ensure that Covanta makes a profit to pay their skakeholders and any ‘other payments’ that are due!!

[joemomma]

There's waste outside Dublin that could be burned there.

There's waste all over the world that could be burned there if it comes to that. Of course the justification for entering into the PPP and obtaining planning permission was not that there was a lot of waste around the place that needed burning, but that DUBLIN had a lot of waste that couldn't be dealt with any other way.

[Baron von Biffo]

Feckin brilliant, lets import waste from China, Russia, Wexford, and Bally Kissmyass to ensure that Covanta makes a profit to pay their skakeholders and any ‘other payments’ that are due!!

Hysterics aside, what's the difference between taking Dublin waste to a landfill in Wicklow and taking Wicklow waste to an incinerator in Dublin?

[Baron von Biffo]

There's waste all over the world that could be burned there if it comes to that. Of course the justification for entering into the PPP and obtaining planning permission was not that there was a lot of waste around the place that needed burning, but that DUBLIN had a lot of waste that couldn't be dealt with any other way.

Where's Dublin's waste going now?

[spidermom]

If the Break clause provision is true; officials from Dublin city council should spend the rest of their lives in prison for misleading the public i.e. their paymaster (or should be!).

I am furious about this if true (and I’m from Cork); I will swear to vote Green in the next election if Gormley is proved to have been right all along on this issue.

??...Don't understand!
If you park the pros and cons of incineration for just a mo!
DCC were following government policy on waste...and it is still government policy...(till Gormley changes it...)


All councils were actively encouraged to seek PPPs...DCC did and this is the result.

Is this not how McNamara got out of the redevelopement of Teresa's gardens?...standard in PPPs I suppose??

Am I wrong??

[Baron von Biffo]

Possibly somewhere in your part of the world - maybe mix it in with some of the turf we pay you to burn

Toll booths at the county border I say. Where there's muck there's brass.