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    valamhic valamhic is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl Gray View Post
    True. But they need to get reelected so that they can enjoy spending all the moolah and the people of the midlands do not want turbines at any price. During the boom the councils took large bonds from the developers but they evaporated as soon as they were needed. People will not be fooled so easily again.

    Running with the hare and hunting with the hound is a tiring business nowadays; Facebook and Twitter are being deployed to good effect by the anti-wind campaigners and the elected representatives of the midlands at all levels are having to show willing. Charlie Flanagan hosted a meeting yesterday between the FG Energy Committee and some of the protest groups at Dail Eireann. A trivial enough thing in itself but nine months ago he was fairly dismissive of the anti-wind lot, now he has to be seen to be doing something. Politicians were slow to realise the build-up of anger but now that they have cottoned on to potential election defeats they are getting busy. The spectre of Ming Flanagan, Mick Wallace, et al looms large: anti-wind candidates would probably do well in local, national or European elections in the midlands. We live in interesting times.
    Provided some of the general public accept the whole thing is a scam. If it get sexy to say that, then it a given.
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    Quote Originally Posted by valamhic View Post
    The uncertainty over the tax credits in the USA are having an impact also:

    Only one wind power project came online in the U .S. during the third quarter of 2013, according to a report from SNL Financial.

    The 42.7-MW Ocotillo Wind Energy Facility in Imperial County, Calif. was the sole wind power project to open in the U.S. during the third quarter, SNL reported. So far, 432 MW of wind capacity has been built in 2013 after 12,620 MW of wind power capacity was brought online in December 2012 as companies rushed to complete projects before the scheduled end of the federal Production Tax Credit.
    Only one U.S. wind farm brought online in third quarter - Pennenergy
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    A decreasing growth rate in the Mediterranean regions due to a strong territorial impact

    After an initial period (2005-2010) of rapid growth of installed power, the development of wind energy is slowing down in many Mediterranean regions of Europe....

    One of the reasons for such a « backlash » is the perception of a strong territorial impact of wind energy. Modern wind turbines have nothing in common with old rustic windmills or early 20th century machines. They can be up to about 150 meters high, and their blades can be more than 30 meters long. In the coastal and mountainous Mediterranean regions, wind energy is thus often accused of damaging the landscape and thus jeopardizing tourism and local economic development. Therefore local authorities express strong reluctance to host wind parks.
    Wind Power
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    Quote Originally Posted by realist View Post
    The uncertainty over the tax credits in the USA are having an impact also:


    Only one U.S. wind farm brought online in third quarter - Pennenergy

    Wind Power
    It's easy to become over zealous when a new money spinner (scuse the pun) comes along, it often leads to boom and bust.
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    Fleming calls for

    A Revenue stream of €1,000,000 per Turbine would provide an irreistable incentive for Councils to grant permission for Wind Turbine Developments.

    Me thinks that Fianna Fáil are behind the Wind Industry!

    The other reality is that more wind turbines lead to more electricty pylons!
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    Very bad news from TheStory.ie about imminent amendments to the FOI Bill 2013 proposed by the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform.

    "We will be blunt: if passed, Freedom of Information is dead.

    TheStory.ie will, in all likelihood, cease all FOI requests. And we will not seek funding from the public to support an immoral, cynical, unjustified and probably illegal FOI fee regime. We will not pay for information that the public already pays for. We will not support a system that perpetuates an outrageous infringement of citizen rights. The legislation was gutted in 2003 and it is being gutted again. More generally the number of requests from journalists from all news organisations in Ireland will fall as a result of these amendments, and the resulting efforts to shine a light on the administration of the State will certainly deteriorate. And secrecy will prevail."

    Killing Freedom of Information in Ireland – The Story
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    https://mail-attachment.googleuserco...lattid=1451323


    More evidence, but it will still be ignored. The problem moves from the waste of wind energy to the cover up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl Gray View Post
    Very bad news from TheStory.ie about imminent amendments to the FOI Bill 2013 proposed by the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform.

    "We will be blunt: if passed, Freedom of Information is dead.

    TheStory.ie will, in all likelihood, cease all FOI requests. And we will not seek funding from the public to support an immoral, cynical, unjustified and probably illegal FOI fee regime. We will not pay for information that the public already pays for. We will not support a system that perpetuates an outrageous infringement of citizen rights. The legislation was gutted in 2003 and it is being gutted again. More generally the number of requests from journalists from all news organisations in Ireland will fall as a result of these amendments, and the resulting efforts to shine a light on the administration of the State will certainly deteriorate. And secrecy will prevail."

    Killing Freedom of Information in Ireland – The Story
    I demanded to know (by access to information request) if RTE had received a direction for the government not to broadcast anti wind informations and they blocked it under the 2003 act.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IbrahaimMohamad View Post
    Fleming calls for

    A Revenue stream of €1,000,000 per Turbine would provide an irreistable incentive for Councils to grant permission for Wind Turbine Developments.

    Me thinks that Fianna Fáil are behind the Wind Industry!

    The other reality is that more wind turbines lead to more electricity pylons!
    Well, Fine Gael and Labour and Sinn Fein are obsessed too. If you check the companies act registration for 2.50 per go, you will find many familiar names among those who invested. I might publish a list of names but I am very busy. A lot are professional people such as doctors, Lawyers a and business men
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    Quote Originally Posted by valamhic View Post
    I demanded to know (by access to information request) if RTE had received a direction for the government not to broadcast anti wind informations and they blocked it under the 2003 act.
    Well it would hardly be surprising if government interference was at play. Back in September when the Head of News at RTE revealed that RTE came under "external" pressure not to broadcast the Anglo Tapes I thought that there would be a public outcry, questions in the Dail, etc. demanding to know who was behind the pressure and why RTE bowed to the pressure instead of broadcasting the tapes. I was wrong; the whole thing was pretty much ignored. I got rid of my television about ten years ago because I did not want to contribute to the coffers of the spineless, mediocrity that is the "national broadcaster" in this country.

    RTE faced 'a lot of pressure' not to broadcast Anglo Tapes extracts - Independent.ie
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