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I agree that there is a lot of snobs, selfishness and passive aggressiveness among so called greens. I call it Green Greed. There are all types of green though ( forty shades!!). To me it's about being Irish - I'm more SF than GP - eating organically and fighting the coming of gmo's into Ireland. But I also realise its not fox hunters and their like who have wrecked our environment. Of course Science has its place in society, but it's not infallible. AGW could very well be a racket (or worse), the same people who are pushing it are pushing GMO's.
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Just for everyone's information, The above poster is the troll formerly known as Youngdan. He is someone who has openly admitted trolling and using multiple accounts to carry out conversations with himself. He is clearly suffering from some kind of personality disorder.
He is forced to constantly re-brand and change his name because after a few months, everyone who uses the forum will have put him on ignore.
I have a strong suspicion the poster "Abrax" is also a youngdan pseudonym as his posts are equally vacuous and he knows too much about the regular posters here for someone who has just joined a few months ago and only has 79 posts
Actual morality is doing what is right regardless of what you're told. Religious morality is doing what you're told, regardless of if it's right.
Ah now come on, that is a sign of green desperation! Attacking the man as the mean greenies do...
Oh absolutely, and them making such intelligent contributions to the debate too.
And...the lightbulbs?
Never let the best be the enemy of the good.
The only thing you seem to be able to add to the debate is a request for lightbulbs. Just because you dont have any, doesnt mean others have to sacrifice or share theirs to satisfy your need to remember what one is like...
Self destruction
"No one rules if no one obeys" - Tao
If someone answered the point instead of ignoring it, I'm sure Ibis would stop mentioning lightbulbs.The only thing you seem to be able to add to the debate is a request for lightbulbs. Just because you dont have any, doesnt mean others have to sacrifice or share theirs to satisfy your need to remember what one is like...
Of course you can always admit that the claim that climate scientists 'controlls every aspect of our lives' is a load of paranoid bullsh1t...
Actual morality is doing what is right regardless of what you're told. Religious morality is doing what you're told, regardless of if it's right.
I hope you aren't beoing so naive to suggest that this is one way? I would love to see the contents of Lord Monckton's mailbox for example.
I certainly get angry when small vociferous and ideologically bound lobby groups try to infringe on my liberty under the most spurious of circumstances. I am well able to rationalise those emotions though and wouldn't think of threateing others, no matter how stupid, or misanthropic they appear.
You will find the emotive argumentation is led by alarmists. That serves a proper debate poorly. AGW proponents, even the supposed dispassionate "scientists" lead with a moral imperative.
Unfortunately, when you behave that way you will prompt reaction from those who are not empowered to influence policy. Those normal everyday people wanting to get on with their lives, but increasingly realising that they are going to have to drive only the type of car that is "correct", must pay a lot more for electricity, or petrol, must buy lightbulbs that cost up to 10 times as much and don;t do the job you want.
Of course the emotion is only enflamed by the rank hypocracy that the disenfranchised majority witness among those who do have a public platform or influence -the Al Gores the Hollywood stars and even the self manufactured celebrity scientists etc. who are helping to shape the type of world they want to see and which (coincidentally) won't really damage their standard of living or quality of life.
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