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Thread: Solar Minimum 2009, Global Cooling and the Record Breaking Winter

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    Quote Originally Posted by brine View Post
    Long term orbital changes around the Sun is what causes ice ages. This explains most of the difference between 1321 and 1413 W/m2 that the Earth experiences. These orbital changes are known as Milankovitch Cycles and are not causing any change in temperature at the moment, because these orbital changes are slow and incremental and happen on a geological timespan (over tens of thousands of years).

    Do you actually know what difference in W/m2 that the 11 year solar cycle is responsible for? Something like 4 watts. Or 0.2% of total output.
    A bit less - about 1.3 W/m2

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibis View Post
    A bit less - about 1.3 W/m2

    Nice one, show 3 cycles that were high. How about one with a deep solar minimum such as this one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cassandra Syndrome View Post
    If another impartial mechanic tells me that the car is fine and that the alarmist mechanic was after his own self interests and a quick buck then yes I would drive my car.

    I would also learn the dynamics of brakes in cars and judge for myself as well.

    Running solar cycles and sunspot data for over 200 years through econometric software can show interesting results.

    This is supposed to be the hottest year on record, but we have no record breaking breaking temperatures, one of the coldest winters across the globe in 100 years and an inactive tropical storm season. Not to mention Arctic ice levels.
    9 mechanics tell you your brakes are likely to fail soon and 1 says your brakes are fine, do you drive the car, carefree?
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    Quote Originally Posted by myksav View Post
    9 mechanics tell you your brakes are likely to fail soon and 1 says your brakes are fine, do you drive the car, carefree?
    If his name is Mike I might take my chances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cassandra Syndrome View Post
    If his name is Mike I might take my chances.
    Interesting response.

    So. If you get a different answer, from a person named (whatever), which is contradicting 9 other mechanics answer, you would take YOUR chances. But to the netherworld with the rest of the road users?

    By the way, that "Mike" mechanic of yours specialises in crash repairs. His brother is a insurance claims lawyer and his sister owns the insurance company.
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    Until the cure is found, it's not just the beekeepers who are suffering - agricultural companies and of course consumers who buy their products have been affected as well.

    Weaver says he just hopes the buzzing honey workers will continue to fight CCD - because without them, the world just wouldn't be the same.

    "Without bees, our world would be a very dreary place to live. So many delicious fruits wouldn't be available and so many wonderful plants wouldn't be able to propagate and reproduce," he said.

    "A very dull and dreary place indeed."
    BBC News - Infections link to bees decline
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    What,s next? Skiing in June?

    Just the thing for Memorial Day - skiing

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    You can go here to check how snow cover has declined in the last 30 years.

    climate4you welcome

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    And the winter kicks off in New Zealand

    Heavy snow and rain on the way - National - NZ Herald News

    Southern Hemisphere nations are between the equator and the 50 degrees south so winter reports are much rarer.
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    Heh, that must be why they have permanent ski resorts in New Zealand then?

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