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    Anthony Watts has been on a crusade against climate scientists for years now through his website, wattsupwiththat.org and his surfacestations.org

    The former is just a propaganda site where deniers gather to propagate myths and lies about global warming science, the latter is supposed to be a scientific blog that catalogues poorly located weather stations and alledges that climate records are incorrect because of the 'urban heat island effect' and he lists examples of weather stations located nearby to ventilation pipes or in urban areas where the natural weather data may be compromised by the surroundings.

    The central premise of this project is that climate scientists do not take into account these artificial factors which are leading to a warming bias in the records.

    Well, a peer reviewed paper published in the Journal of Geophysical Research in August 2009 and revised in December last year, explored this issue in detail in order to do some actual experimental science and find out if there was in fact a warming bias from these poorly located weather stations.

    Results indicate that there is a mean bias
    associated with poor exposure sites relative to good exposure sites; however, this bias is
    consistent with previously documented changes associated with the widespread conversion to
    electronic sensors in the USHCN during the last 25 years. Moreover, the sign of the bias is
    counterintuitive to photographic documentation of poor exposure because associated instrument
    changes have led to an artificial negative (“cool”) bias in maximum temperatures and only a
    slight positive (“warm”) bias in minimum temperatures.....
    ....Adjustments applied to USHCN Version 2 data largely account
    for the impact of instrument and siting changes, although a small overall residual negative
    (“cool”) bias appears to remain in the adjusted maximum temperature series
    Read that again, the bias from these poorly located stations is actually tilted towards a cooling bias rather than a warming one.

    Step forward Anthony Watts, you have done the world a service, you have uncovered evidence that shows that global warming might actually have been slightly underestimated due to a bias in the temperature record.

    As a true sceptic, I'm sure he will be delighted that his work has been tested and that it has led to an advancement in climate science.

    5. Conclusion
    Given the now extensive documentation by surfacestations.org (Watts [2009]) that the
    exposure characteristics of many USHCN stations are far from ideal, it is reasonable to question
    the role that poor exposure may have played in biasing CONUS temperature trends. However,
    our analysis and the earlier study by Peterson [2006] illustrate the need for data analysis in
    establishing the role of station exposure characteristics on temperature trends no matter how
    compelling the circumstantial evidence of bias may be. In other words, photos and site surveys
    do not preclude the need for data analysis, and concerns over exposure must be evaluated in light
    of other changes in observation practice such as new instrumentation.
    Indeed, our analysis does provide evidence of bias in poor exposure sites relative to good
    exposure sites; however, given the evidence provided by surfacestations.org that poor exposure
    sites are predominantly MMTS sites, this bias is consistent with previously documented changes
    associated with the widespread conversion to MMTS-type sensors in the USHCN. Moreover,
    the bias in unadjusted maximum temperature data from poor exposure sites relative to good
    exposure sites is, on average, negative while the bias in minimum temperatures is positive
    (though smaller in magnitude than the negative bias in maximum temperatures).
    The highlighted section shows the difference between science, and propaganda. Watts showing pictures of weather stations and then leaving the viewers to come to their own conclusions that they must be skewing the temperature record in a certain direction is an example of propaganda, it is not science, especially if they keep doing the same thing after their issues have been addressed and investigated.

    Watts has never conducted his own comparative study comparing the bad stations with the good and seeing if there was a negative or positive temperature bias. That is the natural step that he should take if he truly believes in his own theory rather than simply dismiss this study outright for some political reason

    Full report is available here
    http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/u...e-etal2010.pdf
    Last edited by Akrasia; 22nd January 2010 at 01:04 PM.
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    Denier is wrong, sceptic is a better term.

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    Chris Horner - "Red Hot Lies"

    Awesome book.

    Red Hot Lies: How Global Warming Alarmists Use Threats, Fraud, and Deception to Keep You Misinformed

    Review:

    A former lawyer for Enron, shocked to discover that his main job would be to help draft a global warming treaty, tells spiked that censorship and conformism are preventing proper investigation of climate change hysteria
    The result, as Horner’s book explains, is an outlook in which criticism of the global warming consensus is regarded as heresy. The world, we are told, is going to burn unless a particular set of emissions-restricting policies are introduced. Anyone who even dares suggest otherwise is ridiculed or smeared as being in the pay of Big Oil – a baseless slander which was directed at spiked by a national newspaper earlier this year. Meanwhile, the wealthy benefactors and corporate interests that have the potential to gain enormously from climate change legislation are barely mentioned.
    sp!ked review of books | ‘There’s a lot of rich people backing this cause’

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    Use one of the existing threads.
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