GORE, Caught Lying really really badly... Desperately pathetic in fact. WAKE UP

[Mouroux]

It is truly shocking how difficult it has been to even raise the matter of Climategate at the Copenhagen conference -it's taboo, verboten, 'inconvenient' in the extreme:

Stephen Schneider (Stanford) "cannot" answer questions on Climategate... but then almost immediately agrees to 'convene'/move along... armed security and other 'aids' converge on member of press who asked this single question on Climategate. See for yourself:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUtzMBfDrpI"]YouTube- Armed Response to 'Climategate' question[/ame]

As for the CNN interview with Gore, he really blew it, despite the fact that two 'journalists' were brought in to 'question' him -kiss his big fat rich political butt more like.

[Malbekh]

Why does this deserve a new thread? There are 7 million climate change conspiracy theory threads already that this would have happily fitted in to.

You're so wrong, we only have:

The sticky one

http://www.politics.ie/environment/1...d-against.html

http://www.politics.ie/environment/1...suspended.html

http://www.politics.ie/environment/1...aused-co2.html

http://www.politics.ie/environment/1...t-ipcc-no.html

http://www.politics.ie/environment/1...ming-cult.html

http://www.politics.ie/environment/1...-approach.html

http://www.politics.ie/environment/1...past-week.html

http://www.politics.ie/environment/1...l-warming.html

http://www.politics.ie/environment/1...an-health.html

http://www.politics.ie/environment/1...mate-data.html

http://www.politics.ie/environment/1...data-more.html

http://www.politics.ie/environment/1...gen-draft.html

Locked

http://www.politics.ie/environment/1...e-tactics.html

So, out of the 20 available threads we have on the opening page, 15 involve denigrating the current IPCC thinking and the Copenhagen Summit. This may come as a surprise to you, but most people on this site are capable of making their own minds up without having opinions constantly rammed down their throat.

I am prepared to give both sides a fair hearing, but you are fast becoming the worst agenda monkeys on this website. I would strongly advise you - and this is not a threat as I am merely a contributor - to cease and desist this multi-spawning of same topic threads.

The site deserves better....

[justcallmetex]

"it will only attract cooks and conspiracy theorists"- so which are you Simbo?

[Wakeupcall]

Climategate: Al Gore spews the usual nonsense but this time no one believes him

Something truly remarkable happened at Copenhagen yesterday. Al Gore told yet another of his massive whoppers about ManBearPig. But this time no one believed him.

Here’s how the Times reported it:

Mr Gore, speaking at the Copenhagen climate change summit, stated the latest research showed that the Arctic could be completely ice-free in five years.

In his speech, Mr Gore told the conference: “These figures are fresh. Some of the models suggest to Dr [Wieslav] Maslowski that there is a 75 per cent chance that the entire north polar ice cap, during the summer months, could be completely ice-free within five to seven years.”

However, the climatologist whose work Mr Gore was relying upon dropped the former Vice-President in the water with an icy blast.

“It’s unclear to me how this figure was arrived at,” Dr Maslowski said. “I would never try to estimate likelihood at anything as exact as this.”

Mr Gore’s office later admitted that the 75 per cent figure was one used by Dr Maslowksi as a “ballpark figure” several years ago in a conversation with Mr Gore.

Got the picture? Yes GORE is a liar and a con artist.

Interesting to see that story reported in the Times, of all places. Apart from The Independent, no British newspaper – not even George Monbiot’s home the Guardian – has been drinking the AGW Kool-Aid quite so fervently as the Times. From its vast hordes of Eco correspondents to its Op Ed editors and writers, the Times prides itself on being greener than Dr Rajendra Pachauri’s favourite green underpants after a month’s detox diet of spinach, wheat grass juice, parsley and pure essence of ultra-viridian greenness.

So yes, for the Times to report on the Holy Father of the global AGW movement making a total dork of himself is indeed a landmark event.

This is not, of course, the first occasion on which Arctic sea ice coverage has proved stubbornly unhelpful to the Climate Fear Promotion lobby. In 2007 all the Warmists’ dreams seemed to be coming true when satellite images showed arctic ice coverage receding at record levels. (That’s since satellite records began way, waaaay back in 1978).

Hehe I really like the part from the above:
Times prides itself on being greener than Dr Rajendra Pachauri’s favourite green underpants after a month’s detox diet of spinach, wheat grass juice, parsley and pure essence of ultra-viridian greenness.

Yes, indeed and its pretty pathetic for that.

Robin McKie of the Observer crowed:

The Arctic’s sea covering has shrunk so much that the Northwest Passage, the fabled sea route that connects Europe and Asia, has opened up for the first time since records began.

Which was quite true providing – as Ian Wishart reminds us in Air Con: The Seriously Inconvenient Truth About Global Warming – you ignore the people who had successfully sailed through the Passage in 1903, the 1940s and 2000.

Still it was enough to inspire intrepid kayaker and human polar bear Lewis Gordon Pugh to launch a dramatic September 2008 expedition to raise awareness of AGW by kayaking all the way to the North Pole. Tragically about 600 miles short of his destination he got stuck by the ice.

Seriously, LOL at the supporters of this green nonesense.

After the inconvenient arctic sea ice recovery of 2008, Warmists attempted to finesse their argument by saying that although most of the ice seemed to have come back it was the WRONG KIND OF ICE. They called it “rotten ice” – something that deceives satellites into thinking its proper and thick when it is in fact rubbish and thin. This latest exercise in excuse-making has now been demolished on the Watts Up With That site, which points that not one of the major scientific institutions that monitor sea ice levels have supported this theory.

Indeed... LOL... Rotten Ice...

Climategate: Al Gore spews the usual nonsense but this time no one believes him – Telegraph Blogs

[Wakeupcall]

You're so wrong, we only have:

The sticky one

http://www.politics.ie/environment/1...d-against.html

http://www.politics.ie/environment/1...suspended.html

http://www.politics.ie/environment/1...aused-co2.html

http://www.politics.ie/environment/1...t-ipcc-no.html

http://www.politics.ie/environment/1...ming-cult.html

http://www.politics.ie/environment/1...-approach.html

http://www.politics.ie/environment/1...past-week.html

http://www.politics.ie/environment/1...l-warming.html

http://www.politics.ie/environment/1...an-health.html

http://www.politics.ie/environment/1...mate-data.html

http://www.politics.ie/environment/1...data-more.html

http://www.politics.ie/environment/1...gen-draft.html

Locked

http://www.politics.ie/environment/1...e-tactics.html

So, out of the 20 available threads we have on the opening page, 15 involve denigrating the current IPCC thinking and the Copenhagen Summit. This may come as a surprise to you, but most people on this site are capable of making their own minds up without having opinions constantly rammed down their throat.

I am prepared to give both sides a fair hearing, but you are fast becoming the worst agenda monkeys on this website. I would strongly advise you - and this is not a threat as I am merely a contributor - to cease and desist this multi-spawning of same topic threads.

The site deserves better....

In fairness, the people deserve better than draconian carbon taxes based on a false agenda. The agenda is to control us. The more threads the better for not just this website but for humanity itself.

The people are too docile and if even a few of the readers on p.IE can see the truth for what it really is then they might just wake others up and also start seeing what is really going on around them. People have been conned for too long and now we (the people, all the people) need to stand up against the iron fist. So Malkbeth I wholeheartedy disagree with your comment that this site deserves better, in fact, it deserves more.

[myksav]

(sigh) Mods, any chance that this thread could be merged with another global warming thread.

We had a fair few merging with the Lisbon Treaty threads, why not this?

It's getting to look like spamming at this point.

[The Caped Cod]

Over kill is always an issue and can be off putting. Shouting at someone only means they'll shout back.

[Malbekh]

In fairness, the people deserve better than draconian carbon taxes based on a false agenda. The agenda is to control us. The more threads the better for not just this website but for humanity itself.

The people are too docile and if even a few of the readers on p.IE can see the truth for what it really is then they might just wake others up and also start seeing what is really going on around them. People have been conned for too long and now we (the people, all the people) need to stand up against the iron fist. So Malkbeth I wholeheartedy disagree with your comment that this site deserves better, in fact, it deserves more.

With respect, do you not think that spamming 75% of the threads in the front page of the Environment section, with slightly different variations, on trying to disprove or junk the alleged man-made contribution to climate change, is not, shall we say, a tad overdone?

[Son_Of_The_Republic]

So, out of the 20 available threads we have on the opening page, 15 involve denigrating the current IPCC thinking and the Copenhagen Summit. This may come as a surprise to you, but most people on this site are capable of making their own minds up without having opinions constantly rammed down their throat.

I am prepared to give both sides a fair hearing, but you are fast becoming the worst agenda monkeys on this website. I would strongly advise you - and this is not a threat as I am merely a contributor - to cease and desist this multi-spawning of same topic threads.

The site deserves better....

You'd have a valid point if this issue were not the biggest back door bamboozle to subvert soverignty,hijack economies, politics and further strangle the growth of developing nations,the world has yet witnessed.All under the tantalising but co-opted umbrella of Eco/Green affirmitive action.

I guess folk really don't understand the signifcance of what is being attempted here.

[Wakeupcall]

With respect, do you not think that spamming 75% of the threads in the front page of the Environment section, with slightly different variations, on trying to disprove or junk the alleged man-made contribution to climate change, is not, shall we say, a tad overdone?

It is a reflection of the media... A lot of the articles in the media (but not enough generally due to the worst generation of journalists, sorry repeaters, the world has ever seen) are relating to the Climategate scandal. I do not see a problem.

In fact the vast majority of the threads you quoted above are totally different to one another.

I think we have the issue of see one see them all, which would be the completely wrong attitude to take in relation to this issue, you need to read up as much as you can and make sure the truth is getting out... Maybe the MODS can see substance in the threads. They have closed and merged threads before afterall.