Sure, but it's not a subject I have a huge amount of interest in. Certainly I'm a long way from 'outrage'. Are you outraged?Originally Posted by Mouroux
No, why would I? What am I supposed to be feeling here? Religious sympathy of some kind? Why are you assuming I would agree with what the protesters want?
Obviously not, but an idiot appears to have got yours.
Never let the best be the enemy of the good.
oooh... little bit of emotion bubbling up in your last post Ibis!
Note my use of the (precise) psychological/phenomenological term 'empathy' -which you translate as 'religious sympathy of some kind'. You have failed repeatedly to make any kind of conclusion or connection within the thread -you cannot (or will not) move beyond the game of semantics and imaginary definitional problems.
It's real straight-forward: do you feel anything or hold any (ethical) opinions with respect to the violence carried out upon those who share you beliefs (passionately!) about AGW!
No? Really?
'Climate-Gate' Scandal Should Be Wake-Up Call For Press, Politicians
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Well, I do think extremely little of you - and I really wouldn't want you to be under some kind of wrong impression about it.
No, and really. I would suggest that you might want to reconsider your opinions in the light of this new evidence, but I reckon if we're going to get miracles, we should save them for something worthwhile.
Never let the best be the enemy of the good.
You are dealing with WeaselKid IbisIbis still needs to elaborate!
He better! Or I might have to remind him about that graph he apologised for using!
Breaking news. Danish police uphold Danish law.Whatever your opinion of those whose subscribe to green politics, it's important to highlight the behaviour of the police. Of course it's nothing compared to what went down at Seattle, but since these protesters actually wanted global taxation, you'd expect the police would have been trained to go easy this time.
Protests In Copenhagen: Demonstrations, Arrests And Exclusion From The Conference (VIDEO)
Police Pepper Spray, Arrest Protesters Marching on UN Climate Summit as Hundreds Inside Stage Walkout
Climate Crackdown: UN Bars Friends of the Earth and Other Environmental Groups from Climate Talks
I would be interested to hear substantive comments from Ibis et al on this aspect of Copenhagen. Maybe they will actually criticise the establishment for once, instead of buying into this pipe dream that they themselves are on the same 'side' as the political elite. Maybe the 'left' will finally snap out of it, and stop worshiping highly corrupt politicians like Al and Arnie.
This Copenhagen meeting is an intergovernmental meeting, since when does Friends of the Earth and Other Environmental Groups hold governmental status?
Things appear to have settled down among the gov't reps there, they're all talking again.
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[QUOTE=myksav;2347519]Whatever your opinion of those whose subscribe to green politics, it's important to highlight the behaviour of the police. Of course it's nothing compared to what went down at Seattle, but since these protesters actually wanted global taxation, you'd expect the police would have been trained to go easy this time.
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Fascism obviously doesn't discriminate. It hates everybody equally.
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[quote=HughinBandon;2347725]A wee bit of confusion there. I forgot to wrap quote around the bit I was quoting.What you quoted was from Mouroux' OP.
Using this would have been quoting my post.
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You seem to be under the impression that the governments of the world are conducting themselves in a spirit of calm, reason and the best interests of the peoples of the world. The fact of the matter is that COP15 was swarming with big business lobbyists. Civil society hardly got a look in. That's why the protestors (who were anything but hippies) were necessary.
"But do 'climategate' revelations justify the sceptics’ claims that this is “the final nail in the coffin” of global warming theory? Not at all. They damage the credibility of three or four scientists. They raise questions about the integrity of one or perhaps two out of several hundred lines of evidence."
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The fact of the matter is that COP15 was swarming with big business lobbyists. If they get access then so should NGOs.
"But do 'climategate' revelations justify the sceptics’ claims that this is “the final nail in the coffin” of global warming theory? Not at all. They damage the credibility of three or four scientists. They raise questions about the integrity of one or perhaps two out of several hundred lines of evidence."
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