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    Thank God we're surrounded by water.

    According to a report on RTÉ's website:

    Ireland now has the biggest marine territory of any country in the European Union, a conference in Dublin has been told.

    It covers over 650,000 sq.km, more than 10 times the country's land area.

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    A study commissioned by the Department of Communications, Energy & Natural Resources says that potential benefits from the marine territory cover a wide range of possibilities, including hydrocarbons, marine biotechnology, fish farming, fish stocks and renewable energy and could be worth billions of euro to the economy.
    2009 marks the 10th anniversary of the Irish National Seabed Survey (INSS), "amongst the largest marine mapping programmes ever undertaken anywhere in the world."

    Most of the deeper seas around Ireland have now been surveyed and mapped.

    Current research is concentrated on inshore waters.

    A two-day conference to mark the 10th anniversary of the survey work is being held in Dublin.

    Nice to see Ireland among the world leaders in this type of research, especially after so many years of it being the poor relation to agricultural research.

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    Isn't it Europe's water now?
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    we gave away our fishing rights, we gave away our Gas, what makes anyone think for one minute that any valuable resouce that is found in this under water land zone belonging to ireland will not suffer the same fate.

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    you also gave away the first two articles of your constitution some years ago I think...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Qasim Afridi View Post
    you also gave away the first two articles of your constitution some years ago I think...
    That was for "peace", this was for "jobs"
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Caped Cod View Post
    Isn't it Europe's water now?
    It's Mother Earth's water, baby. Take a look a the Salmon Forum. Makes for interesting reading at times. If you thought P.ie can get heated, you ain't seen nothin'....

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Caped Cod View Post
    Isn't it Europe's water now?

    I would fight you on that interpretation, I have read the treaty and matters like this are very much up for negotiation but are in no way a given

    Quote Originally Posted by twinman View Post
    we gave away our fishing rights, we gave away our Gas, what makes anyone think for one minute that any valuable resouce that is found in this under water land zone belonging to ireland will not suffer the same fate.
    Who is the we you speak about, make it an electoral issue would be my response and my own personal view, informed by my experience with Spirit of Ireland is that our resources are so far from the thoughts of the man on the street that we deserve everything that has happened.
    But we are doing our best in this regard anyone want to help?
    Regards, Pat Gill

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    Tough new controls on fishing on the way:

    The EU’s 25-year-old common fish policy has failed to conserve fish stocks, despite huge amounts of money and lots of regulation. The European Court of Auditors blamed this partly on poor control and enforcement of the rules by member states.

    For the first time the new measures will allow the commission to take action against member states who repeatedly fail to regulate their fishing fleets and the industry.

    It modernises the system of monitoring, introducing satellite-based electronic logbook systems on board vessels over 12 meters who must report at regular intervals to centralised bases in member states.

    Landings and the first sale of fish must be reported also to the central system, and the member state will cross-check them to ensure the correct information is being given at every stage.

    For the first time, penalties will be similar in each EU country, putting an end to fishermen taking risks in the waters of countries with low penalties. Fines will range from a minimum of €5,000 to €300,000 for a first offence.

    Under the penalty point system the masters and officers of a vessel will be automatically suspended from fishing for at least six months, and after six offences they will lose their fishing permit permanently.

    As well as national fisheries inspectors there will be EU inspectors who can audit member states’ control systems and inspect vessels, ports, transport vehicles and premises to check if their reports are correct.

    Funding to member states can be suspended for up to 18 months if their action, or failure to act, threatens the conservation of species or the operation of the control system. They can lose the money if they fail to resolve the problems.

    For taking more fish than their quota a country can lose an even greater share of their quota the following year, and they can also lose quota for not enforcing the rules properly.

    For the first time recreational fishing will be included in the monitoring system and landings of any species considered to be endangered, such as cod in the North Sea and Baltic Sea and blue fin tuna in the Mediterranean and eastern Atlantic will have to be reported. A proposal to count their landings as part of a national quota was dropped.

    The Swedish presidency, who chaired the meeting, said that if member states believed recreational fisheries at sea was having a bad effect on stocks, they could introduce tighter rules.

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    Irish Fisheries Minister Tony Killeen said the measures were not a threat to our fishermen as they now comply with the rules, but they would tackle illegal fishing by other fleets in Irish waters that were the major cause of the decline in fish stocks and quotas.

    The Federation of Irish Fishermen welcomed the reforms. "This will go some way towards ensuring a level playing field on controls across the EU from net to plate, and for the first time there will be controls on more than just the fishermen," said FIF chairman Sean O’Donoghue.
    Read more: [COLOR=#0000ff]http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/tough-new-penalties-in-eu-fish-deal-103827.html#ixzz0UaqMFsYm[/COLOR]

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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAiYLTiBiDk"]YouTube - Ronnie Drew - The Dubliners - The Sea Around Us[/ame]

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