A large scale nuclear power plant with 4 nuclear fission reactors could produce up to 30% of Ireland's energy needs reducing our dependance on foreign energy. 13.5% of our energy already comes from wind farms, this is expected to rise to 15%. A brand knew wind farm is proposed for Ireland far out in the atlantic ocean. If built it would be the largest in the world and would give us 10% of our energy. What are we waiting for? oil will run out soon!
Without a doubt we need Nuclear Power and an educated debate about the dangers that are usually bunkum.
with the ongoing rise of the Celtic tiger and population growth its obvious that more natural resourses will be needed and they are not inexaustable. nuclear power makes perfect sense
why not build three of them, that way we could export energy. The government could set up NEI ( Nuclear energy Ireland) to compete with ESB an Boird Gais
Traditionally I would have been totally opposed to nuclear power but now i have to say, given the improvements in technology, and in light of a looming energy crisis, this issue does need to be re-visited.
However i have yet to be totally convinced by either the pro or anti nuclear side of the merits of their arguements. i look forward to the views being expressed here.
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Locating so much output in one facility would not be the best idea. What if something went wrong?
I think that's the overriding question regarding nuclear power, what if something went wrong?
Adi Roche has our brains full of images of poor children with terrible birth defects coming here every Christmas from Belarus.
I wouldn't stand up and say outright NO! It's just that there's this little voice in my head saying "what if something went wrong?"
Just on a sidenote. Sweden which produces nearly half of its electricity from nuclear power held a referendum in 1980 to shut all nuclear power stations by 2010. This is now not going to happen as many Swedish people feel that security of energy supply is now a bigger concern than the environmental issues surrounding nuclear power.
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Mobiles 'cleared' of cancer risk
Long or short-term mobile phone use is not associated with increased risk of cancer, a major study has found.
Mobile phone antennas emit electromagnetic fields that can penetrate the human brain.
But a Danish team found no evidence that this was linked to an increased risk of tumours in the head or neck as had been feared.
The study, of more than 420,000 mobile phone users, appears in the Journal of the National Cancer Institute.
The researchers, from the Danish Institute of Cancer Epidemiology in Copenhagen, looked at data on people who had been using mobile phones from as far back as 1982.
Misguided wingnuts from the luddite wing of the Greens keep telling us that mobile phones are killers. If something as ubiquitous as a mobile can be smeared by these loons then I doubt nuclear nrg has much chance.
Also yes a nuclear failure would be catastrophic, very strong & noticeable effects but the count of nuclear failures is low, coal 'n oil plants belch out filthy stuff daily - '000,000s worldwide have died from smog induced respiratory illnesses.
It should be a matter of simple economics whether we use nuclear fission sourced energy, however expect an onslaught of glassy eyed zealots on this thread some time soon.
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Yes - a spark of sense. Why not nuclear power? There has been no debate - the political parties actively discourage it as it is viewed as a 'hot potato' that could lose them votes - whatever the accuracy of the Sellafield/WindScale scenario - Nuclear Power is an option. Nuclear power is knowledge intensive, engineers, technologists and so on. The tragedy in Belarus has been well documented - any very preventable. We need more debate, more awareness, more French talking about its benefits and so on. Oh - and we will promise not to nuke anybody - well - unless they really ask for it!Originally Posted by BelfastSpark
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Totally, utterly, and incontrovertably incorrect!13.5% of our energy already comes from wind farms
Never mind incorrect, clueless fc.ukwit is probably closer to the mark.A brand knew wind farm is proposed for Ireland far out in the atlantic ocean. If built it would be the largest in the world and would give us 10% of our energy. What are we waiting for? oil will run out soon!
Who gives a monkey's about the so-called "dangers"?
It's the fact that the business case doesn't stack up that has most of looking at the more economically viable alternatives. D'oh!
you really aren't up to speed on this topic, are you?with the ongoing rise of the Celtic tiger and population growth its obvious that more natural resourses will be needed and they are not inexaustable.
Unless you are the taxpayer who will have to subsidise it, or the network manager who will have to compromise efficency to cope with the problems that a Nuke brings to a small network like ours.nuclear power makes perfect sense
Even stupider than the first two posters - which was not an easy thing to accomplish!
The anti- argument is very simple.
There are cheaper, more reliable, indigenuous alternatives out there.
Lets use them, instead of wasting billions of taxpayers yoyos buying in an outdated, overly expensive, inappropriate technology that does not fit properly onto our small electricity grid.
There is a very good reason why the Government, the Civil Servants charged with overseeing our energy networks, the ESB and everybody else who has studied the Energy issues Ireland is facing, have rejected a Nuke. A Nuke is not appropriate for Ireland.
The pro- Nuke argument consists of setting up an anti-windfarm pseudo protest group, muddying the waters, and hoping that the clueless we elect to high office will buy their BS sales techniques.
The overriding question regarding a Nuke is - Could we not find a more appropriate use for billions of taxpayers yoyos.
A Nuke won't work unless the taxpayer subsidises it.
Lots of other energy technologies only require a level playing field with oil/gas. A Nuke requires subsidies.
I can think of lots of far more worthy ways of spending Joe & Josephine's hard-earned than on a giving a bung to the shareholders of GE.
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Do catch up!
The debate has been had.
The numbers don't add up!
The only people advocating a Nuke for Ireland are people who do not have an involvement in the Irish Energy Industry.
Just because Matt Cooper, Miriam O'Callaghan, and a couple of other "influencers" are brought out to lunch by lobbyists from GE, does not change the fact that the numbers don't add up.
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The Swedes indeed voted in a referendum 26 years ago to give up nuclear energy at the first opportunity. Well, such opportunity has not yet occured. They have shut down one of their twelve reactors but that was because of safety reasons as the reactor was old.
Ah I think SPN said everything that needs to be said. But one quick point how much uranium mines are in Ireland.? The answer is none hence nuclear is also a foreign fuel. And yes simply economics should be at work here. I am amazed at the amount of right wingers who lose all their principles over Nuclear energy. It can not be done with out a government subside. i.e opposite to everything the right goes on about. At least people on the left have the excuse that they like state spending .
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