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    Quote Originally Posted by taurus View Post
    Hope the people give Mary Lou a shout this time out, !!! She would be brilliant in the Dail. I'm thinkin Mary Lou Versus Mary Coughlan, or Mary Lou Versus that great carasmatic (NOT) Moan burton !!
    If she doesn't win this time, she needs a new career.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeDroit View Post
    If she doesn't win this time, she needs a new career.
    how so , politicians lose and win elections all the time, and Mary lou has realyy only fought "serious "elections in recent yrs. the Almalgamation of the "Any one but SF forces gave Higgins The Euro seat. Any one else would be seen as tenatious and be credited with a "Never give up " attitude. Unfortunatly for her detractors, She's not goin away Ye'know !!!!

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    It's a matter of circumstances. Dublin Central will probably only have one safe seat at the next election (Costelloe) with three up for grabs. This is very rare, there's usually only one or two seats that are achievable by non-incumbents / star candidates. Last time round there was effectively none available in this constituency (Gregory's at a push). I respect Mary Lou (I don't like Sinners as a rule) but she's unlikely to ever have a better chance than next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeDroit View Post
    Why did MaryLou target DC in the first place? Surely there was a seat in DW for her where she lived. Blanchardstown has to be a good SF spot, no?
    Indeed, especially now as it's gained a seat. Bertie isn't standing. FF will almost certainly run Brady and Fitzpatrick. There should stll be an FF quota and my hunch is that MF i better placd to pick up transfers.

    Donohoe has to get a seat next time or forget about it. If Bruton was FG leader, the PD would be a cert, but EK doesn't play well in Dublin. PD needs to be close to a quota to be sure as I can't see where he'll get transfers, but I think he might shade it.

    This should be the perfect place for Labour to get two, but Costelloe won't risk any vote management stategy and I suspect they'll turn 1.5 quotas into one seat.

    O'Sullivan has cornnered the TG votes well, but without a party machine she may struggle.

    I'm not sure if MLMcD is going to run. There was rumours that she might move to DSE and she's almost invisible in DC right now. The Burke split (and the fact she was never able to get the votes out of Cabra that SF got in 2002) means she's looking a little like the contender that never was.

    It's 1Lab, 1FF and 1FG (in that order) with the fourth being totally open.
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    I reckon you are invisible in Dublin central Keith, for if you were around there you would know that Mary Lou is very much about there on the ground.

    wishful thinking doesnt alway equate with reality son.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murph View Post
    I reckon you are invisible in Dublin central Keith, for if you were around there you would know that Mary Lou is very much about there on the ground.

    wishful thinking doesnt alway equate with reality son.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith-M View Post
    Donohoe has to get a seat next time or forget about it. If Bruton was FG leader, the PD would be a cert, but EK doesn't play well in Dublin. PD needs to be close to a quota to be sure as I can't see where he'll get transfers, but I think he might shade it.
    He will surely get some of the FF votes that don't want to go to Labour, SF or Independent.

    I think O'Sullivan will find it much more difficult in a GE as she will have to stand on her own two feet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murph View Post
    I reckon you are invisible in Dublin central Keith, for if you were around there you would know that Mary Lou is very much about there on the ground.

    wishful thinking doesnt alway equate with reality son.
    She may well be but I haven't seen or heard from her or her team, and I live in between Drumcondra, Phibsboro and the City Centre. Chances are the last two seats will be between her, Clancy, O Sullivan and Fitzpatrick so she's well placed but all this talk of her seems strangely similar to last time when she was apparently going to romp home on the first count....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith-M View Post

    I'm not sure if MLMcD is going to run. There was rumours that she might move to DSE and she's almost invisible in DC right now.
    Why the feck would she want to run in DSE? Working from half a quota is better than starting on a quarter.

    On the other hand DMW might be a consideration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith-M View Post
    Indeed, especially now as it's gained a seat. Bertie isn't standing. FF will almost certainly run Brady and Fitzpatrick. There should stll be an FF quota and my hunch is that MF i better placd to pick up transfers.

    Donohoe has to get a seat next time or forget about it. If Bruton was FG leader, the PD would be a cert, but EK doesn't play well in Dublin. PD needs to be close to a quota to be sure as I can't see where he'll get transfers, but I think he might shade it.

    This should be the perfect place for Labour to get two, but Costelloe won't risk any vote management stategy and I suspect they'll turn 1.5 quotas into one seat.

    O'Sullivan has cornnered the TG votes well, but without a party machine she may struggle.

    I'm not sure if MLMcD is going to run. There was rumours that she might move to DSE and she's almost invisible in DC right now. The Burke split (and the fact she was never able to get the votes out of Cabra that SF got in 2002) means she's looking a little like the contender that never was.

    It's 1Lab, 1FF and 1FG (in that order) with the fourth being totally open.
    FF came in fifth behind SF in the bye election they do not have a safe seat in DC. Bertie will not be running and he had a huge personal vote.

    Dublin central save a small part of glasnevin and the navan rd is a wasteland for FG and has been for almost 25 years. The exception to this was when ballyfermot was included during one election. No natural FG seat here.

    Maureen osullivan does not have the gregory vote tied up and the sympathy vote is wearing thin as she does not represent the people the way he did. She will struggle.

    Joe is safe and will benefit on a personal level from Tonys absence but that is a working class DC vote which goes with the personality rather than the party and dont underestimate it in DC. This will not give labour 2 seats.

    Anyone who says MLD is invisible in DC either doesnt live there or has there head in the sand. And as for a burke split he left and i dont think a single person left with him. In fact i know there are a lot of people back on board behind Mary Lou and i think some of the other candidates are starting to realise it.

    As i said previous this will be a very interesting constituency with 1 guaranteed seat and thats Joes.

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