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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach View Post
    I have engaged the poster in further discussion on the specifics, and that leads me to hold firm to the view that he is a credible source. In particular, he claims the newspaper will acknowledge a swing to Libertas but not the scale of it. Furthermore, he states that the Post will carry an article on Ganley's attitude to neutrality tomorrow. That adds to the poster's credibility imho.
    The Business Post has been in shops in Dublin for the last two hours. Claiming you know what's in it doesn't exactly make you Columbo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hiding behind a poster View Post
    The Business Post has been in shops in Dublin for the last two hours. Claiming you know what's in it doesn't exactly make you Columbo.
    ...and it's out in Cork from about 6pm or so, as anyone who remembers Kerrynorth giving out opinion poll details during the last general election would know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach View Post
    A Sunday Business Post mole on this thread is claiming the newspaper is set to suppress regional-figures from tomorrow’s Red C poll on the euro-election, which place Declan Ganley on 16% in Northwest. Apparently, the newspaper will acknowledge the swing, but not it’s scale. Pressure needs to be brought to bear on the newspaper, in the interests of transparency and with due consideration of the gravity of the issues at stake (including the foremost question of the ratification of the Lisbon Treaty), to follow its standard practice with the previous euro-election polls this year by releasing the regional-breakdown. A failure to do so, especially in the context of a critique of Ganley’s stance on neutrality in tomorrow’s newspaper, can only call into question the impartiality of the publication.needs to be brought to bear on the newspaper, in the interests of transparency and with due consideration of the gravity of the issues at stake (including the foremost question of the ratification of the Lisbon Treaty), to follow its standard practice with the previous euro-election polls this year by releasing the regional-breakdown. A failure to do so, especially in the context of a critique of Ganley’s stance on neutrality in tomorrow’s newspaper, can only call into question the impartiality of the publication. Write to the newspaper to press this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MM FF View Post
    (checking calander...making sure it isnt April 1st....)
    With FutureTaoiseach, it's April 1st every day.

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    Does it have any Data outside of the main party standings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach View Post
    I have engaged the poster in further discussion on the specifics, and that leads me to hold firm to the view that he is a credible source. In particular, he claims the newspaper will acknowledge a swing to Libertas but not the scale of it. Furthermore, he states that the Post will carry an article on Ganley's attitude to neutrality tomorrow. That adds to the poster's credibility imho.

    Didn't you quote a source as saying the MRBI poll would show Libertas getting 2 seats, only for the actual results to show otherwise when they were published?

    What is the basis for you saying that this "source" is more reliable, exactly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dotski_w_ View Post
    Didn't you quote a source as saying the MRBI poll would show Libertas getting 2 seats, only for the actual results to show otherwise when they were published?

    What is the basis for you saying that this "source" is more reliable, exactly?
    Kerrynorth said he was told they were in the shout for 2 seats. This is different. This person seems to have plenty of info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Limerick Lad View Post
    Leading Libertas supporter and conspiracy theorist on Politics.ie confirms credibility of first time poster who claims media conspiracy against Declan Ganley and Libertas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach View Post
    Kerrynorth said he was told they were in the shout for 2 seats. This is different. This person seems to have plenty of info.
    Care to explain how this person, who none of us have heard from before and who says that he is never posting here again, who doesn't even claim to work for the SBP, and who threw out figures with no evidence other than saying it was so, is more credible than Kerrynorth?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dotski_w_ View Post
    Care to explain how this person, who none of us have heard from before and who says that he is never posting here again, who doesn't even claim to work for the SBP, and who threw out figures with no evidence other than saying it was so, is more credible than Kerrynorth?
    FT likes what they're saying, therefore he finds it more credible. He's not going to say that, but we know it's the case, because it's always the case with FT and polls.
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