Business Post/Red C Poll 31/05

[Kerrygold]

FF 21 -3
FG 34 - no change
Lab 18 - no change
SF 10 +3
GP 4 -1
Ind / Oth 13 +1

It may have something to do with the above figures!

[nephinman]

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A Sunday Business Post mole on this thread is claiming the newspaper is set to suppress regional-figures from tomorrow’s Red C poll on the euro-election, which place Declan Ganley on 16% in Northwest. Apparently, the newspaper will acknowledge the swing, but not it’s scale. Pressure needs to be brought to bear on the newspaper, in the interests of transparency and with due consideration of the gravity of the issues at stake (including the foremost question of the ratification of the Lisbon Treaty), to follow its standard practice with the previous euro-election polls this year by releasing the regional-breakdown. A failure to do so, especially in the context of a critique of Ganley’s stance on neutrality in tomorrow’s newspaper, can only call into question the impartiality of the publication.needs to be brought to bear on the newspaper, in the interests of transparency and with due consideration of the gravity of the issues at stake (including the foremost question of the ratification of the Lisbon Treaty), to follow its standard practice with the previous euro-election polls this year by releasing the regional-breakdown. A failure to do so, especially in the context of a critique of Ganley’s stance on neutrality in tomorrow’s newspaper, can only call into question the impartiality of the publication. Write to the newspaper to press this point.

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Dont worry about it, there is no swing to ganley out here in the NW

[FutureTaoiseach]

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Dont worry about it, there is no swing to ganley out here in the NW

The source (journo) says he's on 16% there.

[Observer]

A Sunday Business Post mole on this thread is claiming the newspaper is set to suppress regional-figures from tomorrow’s Red C poll on the euro-election, which place Declan Ganley on 16% in Northwest.

Not quite. A poster suddenly appeared on this thread making these claims, having never posted before. For all we know, the poster could be a Libertas sock-puppet, just like the posters who have popped up here in the last week claiming that Marian Harkin is a closet FFer.

It wouldn't be the first time this week that we had a Libertas w*nkfest on p.ie over Ganley's supposedly soaring poll-figures, as you and Kerrynorth well know.

[FutureTaoiseach]

Not quite. A poster suddenly appeared on this thread making these claims, having never posted before. For all we know, the poster could be a Libertas sock-puppet, just like the posters who have popped up here in the last week claiming that Marian Harkin is a closet FFer.

It wouldn't be the first time this week that we had a Libertas w*nkfest on p.ie over Ganley's supposedly soaring poll-figures, as you and Kerrynorth well know.

I have engaged the poster in further discussion on the specifics, and that leads me to hold firm to the view that he is a credible source. In particular, he claims the newspaper will acknowledge a swing to Libertas but not the scale of it. Furthermore, he states that the Post will carry an article on Ganley's attitude to neutrality tomorrow. That adds to the poster's credibility imho.

[dotski_w_]

Not quite. A poster suddenly appeared on this thread making these claims, having never posted before. For all we know, the poster could be a Libertas sock-puppet, just like the posters who have popped up here in the last week claiming that Marian Harkin is a closet FFer.

It wouldn't be the first time this week that we had a Libertas w*nkfest on p.ie over Ganley's supposedly soaring poll-figures, as you and Kerrynorth well know.

True. Plus he said he wasn't actually a SBP journo, contrary to FT's claim otherwise (and his writing style - and suggestion that this site is held in high regard for the quality of its posts - suggests to me that he's no journo of any description)

[Observer]

I have engaged the poster in further discussion on the specifics, and that leads me to hold firm to the view that he is a credible source. In particular, he claims the newspaper will acknowledge a swing to Libertas but not the scale of it. Furthermore, he states that the Post will carry an article on Ganley's attitude to neutrality tomorrow. That adds to the poster's credibility imho.

You were coming out with this same sort of b*llsh*t about the MRBI poll. This new source/sock-puppet has as much credibility as you have.

[inspired]

A Sunday Business Post mole on this thread is claiming the newspaper is set to suppress regional-figures from tomorrow’s Red C poll on the euro-election, which place Declan Ganley on 16% in Northwest. Apparently, the newspaper will acknowledge the swing, but not it’s scale. Pressure needs to be brought to bear on the newspaper, in the interests of transparency and with due consideration of the gravity of the issues at stake (including the foremost question of the ratification of the Lisbon Treaty), to follow its standard practice with the previous euro-election polls this year by releasing the regional-breakdown. A failure to do so, especially in the context of a critique of Ganley’s stance on neutrality in tomorrow’s newspaper, can only call into question the impartiality of the publication.needs to be brought to bear on the newspaper, in the interests of transparency and with due consideration of the gravity of the issues at stake (including the foremost question of the ratification of the Lisbon Treaty), to follow its standard practice with the previous euro-election polls this year by releasing the regional-breakdown. A failure to do so, especially in the context of a critique of Ganley’s stance on neutrality in tomorrow’s newspaper, can only call into question the impartiality of the publication. Write to the newspaper to press this point.

I cannot see why the Post would not publish details of a Ganley surge if it was comfortable with the findings. It would be a scoop for the paper if he won and would suggest that its polling is more accurate the I Times. I suspect their problem is that the sample size is so small, at best 250 and possibly less, that there is a huge margin of error.

The Post's GE tracking poll numbers are within the moe of being identical to the I Times' non adjusted figures from Friday. The Times' N/W poll was based on 500 people and a ballot paper. I suspect that the Post might have a high Ganley figure, but thinks it is a questionable given the small sample size and the variance from the I Times' figure for Ganley.

So ease up on the conspiracy theories.

[Limerick Lad]

I have engaged the poster in further discussion on the specifics, and that leads me to hold firm to the view that he is a credible source. In particular, he claims the newspaper will acknowledge a swing to Libertas but not the scale of it. Furthermore, he states that the Post will carry an article on Ganley's attitude to neutrality tomorrow. That adds to the poster's credibility imho.

Leading Libertas supporter and conspiracy theorist on Politics.ie confirms credibility of first time poster who claims media conspiracy against Declan Ganley and Libertas.

[hiding behind a poster]

A Sunday Business Post mole on this thread is claiming the newspaper is set to suppress regional-figures from tomorrow’s Red C poll on the euro-election, which place Declan Ganley on 16% in Northwest. Apparently, the newspaper will acknowledge the swing, but not it’s scale. Pressure needs to be brought to bear on the newspaper, in the interests of transparency and with due consideration of the gravity of the issues at stake (including the foremost question of the ratification of the Lisbon Treaty), to follow its standard practice with the previous euro-election polls this year by releasing the regional-breakdown. A failure to do so, especially in the context of a critique of Ganley’s stance on neutrality in tomorrow’s newspaper, can only call into question the impartiality of the publication.needs to be brought to bear on the newspaper, in the interests of transparency and with due consideration of the gravity of the issues at stake (including the foremost question of the ratification of the Lisbon Treaty), to follow its standard practice with the previous euro-election polls this year by releasing the regional-breakdown. A failure to do so, especially in the context of a critique of Ganley’s stance on neutrality in tomorrow’s newspaper, can only call into question the impartiality of the publication. Write to the newspaper to press this point.

Wrong. An alleged mole. "Journo" could be anyone.