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    Those results are very imformative. They suggest FF is in dire trouble. Plus anyone on the doorsteps today will have seen a new swing against FF over the banks. Plus the polls have not captured the impact of those who were hit by the new taxes yesterday. To make it worse, the unemployment figures will be out on election day. (Dear God in Heaven! How dumb is the government that they pick as election day the day of unemployment figures? They cannot even pick a date for the election - they could have gone for the previous day - without making a muck of it!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmcc View Post
    The problem is that the Irish Times has been discredited as an objective news source where Ganley, Libertas and the EU are concerned so it is not unthinkable that Madam's institutional bias against Ganley and Libertas will be reflected in how it presents the data and, perhaps, in how the polling questions are framed.

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    and perhaps even in how the front page is made up the Saturday before the vote? As in:

    [SIZE="3"]Ganley's Euro hopes fade[/SIZE]...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TommyO'Brien View Post
    To make it worse, the unemployment figures will be out on election day. (Dear God in Heaven! How dumb is the government that they pick as election day the day of unemployment figures? They cannot even pick a date for the election - they could have gone for the previous day - without making a muck of it!)
    I put a thread up about that during the week. It is likely to break 400k which will dominate the news on election day without any spinning from government allowed because of the election day black out. Either someone in government is really incompetent in not spotting this, or, this is the Civil Servants in the CSO getting their dig in over the pension levy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by factual View Post
    Excellent result for Sinn Féin, a statistically significant increase. Sinn Féin is really doing well now - a very empowering experience. In all of this Sinn Féin will aim at sustainable slow release rather then here-today-gone-tomorrow increases.
    Of for god sake, change the record. SF are back to where they were in polls in 2004! So much for a dramatic breakthrough. In breakthroughs you hold the vote you get and increase it, not lose it and spend the next five years trying to get back the votes you lost!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kerrynorth View Post
    I put a thread up about that during the week. It is likely to break 400k which will dominate the news on election day without any spinning from government allowed because of the election day black out. Either someone in government is really incompetent in not spotting this, or, this is the Civil Servants in the CSO getting their dig in over the pension levy.
    I think the date may be set to coincide with the rest of Europe.

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    Ganley at 2/1 to win a seat with PP, out from 6/4.
    If you buy these figures, lump on now before the SBP comes out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kerrynorth View Post
    I put a thread up about that during the week. It is likely to break 400k which will dominate the news on election day without any spinning from government allowed because of the election day black out. Either someone in government is really incompetent in not spotting this, or, this is the Civil Servants in the CSO getting their dig in over the pension levy.
    It really sums up the incompetence of this government, doesn't it? Ministers have the date for the figures seared in their heads. Why didn't anyone realise 'Oh Christ. That is election day. We have to change election day.' They are beyond parody at this stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat View Post
    I think the date may be set to coincide with the rest of Europe.

    None of that Blame it on the EU stuff on this thread please.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat View Post
    I think the date may be set to coincide with the rest of Europe.
    No. Europe specifies a set of dates (4th-7th) as some countries vote on Thursdays, some on Fridays, some on Sundays, to allow every country to vote on their normal date. We vote on either Thursdays or Fridays. So they could have gone on the 4th if they chose.

    But they are too incompetent even to that that right.

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    Again the key point, what question was asked? There was a big difference between the initial numbers posted on the IT/MRBI poll and the numbers when the question was how would people vote in the locals and in the Euros. These numbers mean little or nothing if the question is how will people vote in the next general election, given that that is two or three years away.
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