June 5th will be a vote on NAMA, Cowen, Developers, Bankers and Corruption

[anewbeginning]

These will be the over-riding issues.

People will not be voting for candidates, nor even the best candidates. nor for fixing the pothole down the road.

It will be a chance for the people to pass judgement on the behaviour of FF not only in the last 2 years but the last 25 years.

There are many good FF candidates, but they are not even being listened to on the doorsteps, the door shut on them as soon as people hear the words FF. The people have decided what the issues are. The are almost all national, almost all economic and all related to FF's disastrous running of the country.

[Marlowe]

The latest poll certainly bears out what you are saying.

[Drico]

The latest poll certainly bears out what you are saying.

No if it was based on NAMA, people would not be moving towards Labour.

FG alternative is the only real way to go and anybody familiar with the choices vis-a-vis NAMA would see that.

[Marlowe]

No if it was based on NAMA, people would not be moving towards Labour.

FG alternative is the only real way to go and anybody familiar with the choices vis-a-vis NAMA would see that.

I was thinking in terms of FF's crash in the polls. I think the op is pointing out a litany of FF failures. I also think NAMA will be a horrible disaster.

[seenitallb4]

it will be a very irish event- a people lacking in moral fibre who coasted for years on low taxes, cheap credit, and a property bubble that made them feel loaded; who twice re-elected Fianna Fail for giving them them above; and who now wish to vent their outrage at our current economic situation and act like it had nothing to do with them at all.
No.....they didn't take out massive mortgages and run up silly debts on Merc and foreign holidays...it was FF wot made us do it, honest guv....no, they didnt whinge about services for years while at the same time taking SSIA money.......and as for Fianna Fail being in government...that just happened by accident and had nothing to do with the voters at all....it was all a huge accident in which the electorate was a passive victim.....

[athlonedub]

No if it was based on NAMA, people would not be moving towards Labour.

FG alternative is the only real way to go and anybody familiar with the choices vis-a-vis NAMA would see that.

I work in the Finance area (not banking!). I would consider myself quite familiar with the NAMA proposals. I looked at the FG plan yesterday. Some quite good suggestions. However the NAMA one is just completely bonkers.

#2 on the banks though is ducking the issue. Buying the good loans off the banks does absolutely nothing positive for their balance sheets. It just replaces performing assets with cash. It therefore does nothing at all to fill the gaps arising from the non performing nama bound loans. In fact if the solution did work, the banks would already be doing it by securitising mortgages and selling them to the ECB (which it is entitled to do).

Actually the more I think about it, 2 is complete pants !! Black mark on that one.

[bormotello]

It shouldn’t be only proFF/antiFF judgment
Opposition is doing nothing, because they know that will win next election in any case and one idiots will be replaced by another.

The best way to say to all politicians in Ireland that people are not happy by their performance is give votes to independents
It must be tough lesson for opposition as well.

[SamVimesBoots]

It shouldn’t be only proFF/antiFF judgment
Opposition is doing nothing, because they know that will win next election in any case and one idiots will be replaced by another.

The best way to say to all politicians in Ireland that people are not happy by their performance is give votes to independents
It must be tough lesson for opposition as well.

Eh? That makes no sense. It's the fault of FG, Labour and/or SF that Fianna Fáil have completely banjaxed the entire country? FG/Lab/SF must also be "punished" - for what? For the fact the moronic electorate believed Bertie's spin and kept voting for a crook?

[bormotello]

Eh? That makes no sense. It's the fault of FG, Labour and/or SF that Fianna Fáil have completely banjaxed the entire country? FG/Lab/SF must also be "punished" - for what? For the fact the moronic electorate believed Bertie's spin and kept voting for a crook?

Opposition elected to protest against stupid policies of ruling party.
Otherwise there is no reason for them to go to Dail, they could stay home
Did labours/SF protested much few years ago against property bubble?
They were only looking how to spend money from property bubble

[Digout]

FF have ruined hundreds of thousands of lives. They deserve punishment.