Fianna Fail major reform needed

[DS-09]

In light of the recent MRBI poll, and the disgraceful polling of the party in that poll, I think the party is in need of major reform. It is time to reconnect with our roots, reconnect with the idealism of Fianna Fail's younger pre-Haughey days. It is time for us to become the party of dignity, integrity, idealism and noble intentions that produced De Valera, Lemass and Lynch. I am f*cking sick of the damage s*cumbags like Haughey, Lawlor and Burke have done to the reputation of the party in recent years- and the life threatening damage the Cowen administration is now causing to FF. We are polling at the lowest rates since the beginning of the party- and this has to be a sign that major reform is needed.
It is time to get tough on crime and the s*um that has been dragging down the party, and its reputation over the last two decades, and show the electorate that we mean business- and we mean to run this country free from ANY corruption, and be shown to punish the Haughey's/Burkes/ Anglo-Irish banks of this world.
Our party is disintegrating before our eyes- its time to re-connect with the original noble intentions of our founders, and the founders of the Irish state. If we don't- the ship will sink to the icy depts of the ocean floor. I would appreciate any FF avator members to join in. Thank you.

[Pauli]

I don't want to see this party reformed. I want to see it wiped out.

[Michael Moloney]

In light of the recent MRBI poll, and the disgraceful polling of the party in that poll, I think the party is in need of major reform. It is time to reconnect with our roots, reconnect with the idealism of Fianna Fail's younger pre-Haughey days. It is time for us to become the party of dignity, integrity, idealism and noble intentions that produced De Valera, Lemass and Lynch. I am f*cking sick of the damage s*cumbags like Haughey, Lawlor and Burke have done to the reputation of the party in recent years-

Below is a letter Published on June 12th 2005 in The Laois Nationalist, (in reply to scurrilous and unfounded comments by an un-named source (fellow FF Councillor) in the previous edition of the paper.




To: The Editor
The Laois – Nationalist
Portlaoise, Co. Laois


Among the on going problems for Fianna Fail is that it is still plagued from within its ranks by a number of disingenuous, dishonest, duplicitous people.

Every organisation has at one time or another within its number some, whose only way of furthering their own career is by taking the role of the gombeen men( parasites by nature) of 19th century Ireland.

Anonymously and with hand over mouth, character assassination of their peers in order to gain status and position is the modus operandi of the modern day equivalent.

Having no vision, no sense of loyalty, without any ability to contribute to changing events, they fall back on back slapping in public and back stabbing in private and like the Haughey team, they, one day will wake up wondering where did it all go wrong.

Unlike Pauric Flynn, Ray Burke, et all, these boys never expose themselves, they are happy to get elected, collect the expense cheque, and so when they eventually fall away, their demise will be silent to the public; but huddled around their kitchen tables, they and their ilk will demonise the victors having spent their own time in elected office doing nothing lasting and / or worthwhile.

In view of the anonymous lies emanating from within the Fianna Fail Group, I am left with no choice but to set the record straight for those who read the untruths in last week’s local press.

Throughout the Haughey leadership of Fianna Fail my antipathy towards his abuse of the Fianna Fail party by himself and his lieutenants, was clear and consistent. Also the total disregard for the Institutions of the State this leadership had when in office was something that was little short of treason, a view held by some then, myself included and by many now.

As stated in Last Saturday’s Irish Times Editorial on Sean Doherty’s passing,


“THOSE WERE DARK DAYS WHEN DEMOCRACY ITSELF WAS THREATENED”


Yes those were indeed dark days, and today as then I make no apology for going to any forum in the hope of hearing a way to having that Leadership ousted.


However there is a small element within Fianna Fail left over from those days who by operating with mouths covered believe they can damage their peers with impunity.


In 2005 FF have representatives within its ranks who are willing to engage in the same bullyboy, cloak and dagger activities that were the order of the day under CJH.


The accusations against me by unnamed sources published last week were scurrilous and unfounded.
Anyone who fuels public debate on any issue while engaging in character assassination under the cloak of anonymity is utterly below contempt.


Whoever wants ‘a split in the camp’ has their own agenda and I believe that such persons belong with Burke, Lawlor and the O’Flynn dynasty, in a camp outside the Fianna Fail party.



I spoke with The Chairperson of The Laois Fianna Fail Councillors Group who acknowledged my right to reply to last weeks article; and while accepting his point that The Fianna Fail group as a whole should not be tarnished; I hold that the least that should be done is that the unnamed sources with low standards should be flushed out and either expelled from the party or severely disciplined.



Yours sincerely,

Michael Moloney. Member of Laois County Council. Fianna Fail. (June 12th 2005).



Fianna Fail has failed the Nation


Michael Moloney MCC (Indep) Laois CC May 15th 2009

[greengoose]

You're not Paul Gogarty by any chance. I ask that becaus of your tendancy to vomiting, running with the hare and hunting with the hounds and principally by throwing the toys out of the pram when you realise you went a tad too far!

[jmcc]

I don't want to see this party reformed. I want to see it wiped out.

Ireland needs to be de-FFuked.

Regards...jmcc

[drjimryan]

[QUOTE=DS-09;1657550]. I am f*cking sick of the damage s*cumbags like Haughey, Lawlor and Burke have done to the reputation of the party in recent years- and the life threatening damage the Cowen administration is now causing to FF.
[IMG]

you seem to be pasting over the real cause of our problems......Bertie Aherne

[jimmyjames]

Hey DS-09, no sh1t?!

[blacbloc]

Bertie Ahern is only one of the worst symptoms of a nationwide sickness that has always afflicted Fianna Fail. De Valera was himself up to his eyeballs in a scam that saw him keep the proceeds of funds raised in America when he set up the Irish Press and kept it for his own family. All of the best of our politicians of the era were executed - no accident. Dev alone was spared. No coincidence. Like all traitors he did what he was told. The civil war was about nothing but his own vanity - and jealousy of Micahel Collins who ended being forced to do what Dev himself had almost certainly agreed would have to be done. He just didn't want to be seen to have done it. That's the trouble with traditional FFers: they believe in the myth of De Valera.

We might as well forget all of that stuff now anyway because it has become largely irrelevant except for the insight it offers us on how FF has been corrupt from he outset. Haughey just took it to new levels, and Bertie passed him out.

Just posted on another thread about how the rot begins on town and county councils -the training ground for the Dail. That's where the rout should take place, first of all. Most of those elected think it is their duty to help people destroy and undermine the insitutions and laws of the state by helping them evade taxes, planning laws, procure undeserved favours and any other form of cheating that they can come up with to buy popularity. They have created a rural electorate that is almost indifferent to these realities now. This is not the Ireland of Padraig Pearse or James Connolly - or any of the real founding heroes of the state - the best of whom were all executed.

I haven't seen a single candidate anywhere who raised the issue of corruption or cronyism. Fine Gael or Fianna Fail, depend on it, it will be corrupt business as usual.

[revereie]

Extraordinary Rendition, Tara, Rossport - unless FF can acknowledge the error of its ways then I'm afraid it won't be reconnecting with anybody.
Your problem is you just don't get it.

I'm afriad you don't get it. All the other parties would follow our line on the above issues - there are other more serious issues facing the country now. (But in fairness I agree then with what followed the above in your post)

[cactusflower]

Fianna Fail was a party for dividing the spoils of war. It thrived on managing shortages to the advantage of its voters.

Now it has bankrupted us the pot is empty and there is no more vote buying.

By the time we heal ourselves from the terrible damage, Fianna Fail will reside in the history books.

There will be an inevitable left/right split in the coming months and years. There simply isn't any point in having two centrist parties any more. People will choose sides and there will be a changed face to Irish politics.