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Thread: Libertas ad on Politics.ie is inaccurate & misleading

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    Libertas ad on Politics.ie is inaccurate & misleading

    I was interested to see the current Libertas 'poll type' advertisement running on Politics.ie and like most mugs I was drawn into participate.




    I entered in Ireland and 1 seat won (based on perhaps a Libertas win for Ganley for arguments sake) And what I got was this, which on he face of it seems ok,





    But shocking as the first figure seems in essence (to perhaps all but political junkies like ourselves on Politics.ie) the second figure and the assertion are completely inaccurate and misleading.

    Libertas claim that 'with a vote for Libertas you can win 785 seats' -which would in fact be the whole European Parliament. If that were true Libertas would have to run a candidate in every consituency and in the case of Ireland, considering our PR system, they would have to run the maximum number of candidates (the acutal number of seats) i.e. 12.

    As we all know, Libertas are only fielding 3 candidates in Ireland including Mr. Ganley.

    So there is no possible way for Libertas to win 785 seats and therefore this advertisment is misleading and inaccurate. And dare I say, reflective of the organisation in general.

    Erik

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    You will also find from this calculator that Ireland are massively overrepresented in the European Parliament. If anyone of any intelligence uses this and verifies the facts they will see that this calculator is actually giving Irish people a reason to stand against Libertas. They must be banking on the Irish people's idiocy not to check anything for themselves.
    Economic Left/Right: 0.38
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.67

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    Libertas telling bare-faced lies?! Via a website owned by one of its paid monkeys?!

    Quick, get the smelling-salts!

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    Civitas vs Libertas.

    It is on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Civitas View Post
    So there is no possible way for Libertas to win 785 seats and therefore this advertisment is misleading and inaccurate. And dare I say, reflective of the organisation in general.

    Erik

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    Erik, you should also be aware that even if Libertas did have enough candidates to win every seat in the European Parliament, it couldn't possibly win 785 seats.

    This is because there are only 736 seats available to be won in the forthcoming European Parliament.

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    Huh You can tell DC that I ain't.

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    its bizarre, its ignores the parliamentary groups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marmurr1916 View Post
    Erik, you should also be aware that even if Libertas did have enough candidates to win every seat in the European Parliament, it couldn't possibly win 785 seats.

    This is because there are only 736 seats available to be won in the forthcoming European Parliament.
    Oh Feck - that is funny.

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    it's broken now........keeps sending me to Libertas site instead

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    That Libertas ad seems to have suddently vanished from p.ie

    All that is left is a blank blue box

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