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    Quote Originally Posted by Verhofstadt View Post
    Paying for your guest speakers travel and accomodation and perhaps a gift (bottle of good wine, bunch of flowers or a small piece of crystal) is standard practice.. a cash inducement is not standard in my experience, especially for a political rally.

    (We are talking about political speakers here.. not Twink or some other half arsed entertainer)
    Didn't Libertas also pay for a good number of the delegates to attend?
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    There is something very distasteful about Libertas taking financial advantage of a European hero to shill for them when he doesn't even support them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oceanclub View Post
    There is something very distasteful about political Parties taking financial advantage of a European hero to shill for them when he doesn't even support them.

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    Looks more true that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ibis View Post
    Didn't Libertas also pay for a good number of the delegates to attend?
    Yes. I got an email from Libertas before the convention that said they would pay for transport and accommodation for the first 25 people to respond to that email. I was actually thinking of getting together a few friends and applying, a free trip to Rome courtesy of Ganley sort of appealed to me!

    If they were paying transport and accommodation for 25 attendees in a country where they have just 3 candidates, its an indicator of how many overall attendees they shipped in, considering they are running 200 candidates in all.

    Then after the conference I got an email saying how some attendees have 'traveled thousands of miles' just to be there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GordonGekko View Post
    Yes. I got an email from Libertas before the convention that said they would pay for transport and accommodation for the first 25 people to respond to that email. I was actually thinking of getting together a few friends and applying, a free trip to Rome courtesy of Ganley sort of appealed to me!

    If they were paying transport and accommodation for 25 attendees in a country where they have just 3 candidates, its an indicator of how many overall attendees they shipped in, considering they are running 200 candidates in all.

    Then after the conference I got an email saying how some attendees have 'traveled thousands of miles' just to be there.
    So maybe quarter to a half the audience were there on Declan's dime? Impressive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GordonGekko View Post
    Yes. I got an email from Libertas before the convention that said they would pay for transport and accommodation for the first 25 people to respond to that email. I was actually thinking of getting together a few friends and applying, a free trip to Rome courtesy of Ganley sort of appealed to me!

    If they were paying transport and accommodation for 25 attendees in a country where they have just 3 candidates, its an indicator of how many overall attendees they shipped in, considering they are running 200 candidates in all.

    Then after the conference I got an email saying how some attendees have 'traveled thousands of miles' just to be there.

    Libertas sent an email offering to pay for the cost of 25 supporters to attend the convention. Twenty Five.

    How you lot have jumped from 25 to any other number is confusing to say the least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CookieMonster View Post
    Libertas sent an email offering to pay for the cost of 25 supporters to attend the convention. Twenty Five.

    How you lot have jumped from 25 to any other number is confusing to say the least.
    If it was 25 across the whole EU, fair enough. The impression seems to be that it was 25 in Ireland.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CookieMonster View Post
    Libertas sent an email offering to pay for the cost of 25 supporters to attend the convention. Twenty Five.

    How you lot have jumped from 25 to any other number is confusing to say the least.
    Did you pay for yourself, CM, or did you take the offer of Ganloopy's shilling?

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    Quote Originally Posted by setanta View Post
    Did you pay for yourself, CM, or did you take the offer of Ganloopy's shilling?
    I assume you mean Ganley. No "offer" was made to me.
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    Dear, oh dear. Can Libertas even do the smallest things in an open and transparent manner?

    Here's a comment from an Austrian who was at the Libertas rally:

    As an Austrian participant at the Rome Libertas Convention on May 1st I’d like to make the following statement.Firstly: A couple of weeks ago I announced to
    Libertas to be willing to run for Austria at the EU-elections.I asked for advice and support.All I received was that somebody would contact me. He never did.
    Secondly: When I arrived at the Parco della musica there were no Austrian flags
    available.Thirdly:When the resolution was signed by a German pretending to be Austrian - with me the only Austrian watching- I was flabberghasted. Fourthly: Apart from the deficits that I sadly had to experience I still believe that Libertas can offer new hope for a democratic EU. And I’m willing to support the idea.Peter Feldhofer, Gxxxxxstr.XX,A-8010 Austria e-mai:Peter.feldhofer@xxxxx.at
    Polish media reporting that Lech Wałęsa might have been paid over €50,000 for his speech at the Libertas rally. That's some honorarium!

    Wałęsa: 50 tysięcy euro od Libertas? Mało

    Lech Wałęsa, który od piątku tłumaczy się z udziału w rzymskim kongresie eurosceptycznej partii Libertas, że za wystąpienie dostał pieniądze - czytamy w "Rzeczpospolitej". Zapytany przez dziennikarza, czy mogło chodzić o 50 tysięcy euro, odpowiada: Tak nisko mnie cenicie? Pan musi rok pracować na to, co ja zarobię za jeden wykład.

    – W Polsce zarabiam około 3 tysięcy złotych, to mi nie wystarcza. Muszę przecież utrzymać dom i znośnie żyć - powiedział Wałęsa.
    Wałęsa: 50 thousand euro from Libertas? Small [change]

    Lech Wałęsa, who on Friday returned from participation in the congress of the eurosceptic party, Libertas, where his speech got the money - as we read in "Rzeczpospolita". Asked by a journalist whether this could be about 50 thousand euros, answered: I am paid so low? You need to work for years to get what I earn for a lecture.

    In Poland, earning about 3 thousand zlotys, it is not enough for me. We have to keep house and to live decently - said Wałęsa.
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