Ganley/Libertas edit own Wikipedia page as Caroline Simons uses the site to smear MEP

[OMahonyMunster]

Great post on Libertas Nein Danke that nails Ganley and or Libertas editing Declan Ganley's Wikipedia page to remove all references to the fact that Libertas support strikebreaking in the week that SIPTU banned Caroline Simons from Liberty Hall
This comes on the same day the Herald has a story about yesterday's Pat Kenny show where Simons cited Wikipedia as a source and De Burca had to tell her that people can edit Wikipedia though removing sourced information ie sourced from papers of record is frowned upon by Wikipedia administrators and editors who are trying to make the site a good encyclopedia

An IP address registered to a resident of Tuam Co. Galway has been editing the Wikipedia page on Declan Ganley this week removing words like Eurosceptic, and references to the Irish Times articles that cites Ganley's parties advocacy of strikebreaking in the Libertas memorandum of association.
other than Ganley's wiki article the only other pages on Wikipedia edited by that IP are

* 12:57, 12 October 2007 (hist) (diff) David McWilliams ‎
* 12:41, 12 October 2007 (hist) (diff) Leviathan: Political Cabaret ‎
* 12:08, 12 October 2007 (hist) (diff) Leviathan (disambiguation) ‎

Leviathon is the political club night run by Libertas founder Naoise Nunn who resigned last year but who used to work for Rivada Networks establishing the Libertas brand for Ganley's US Defence company.


The same IP addresss has logged onto Libertas Nein Danke 180 times over the past three months.
In my statcounter I have it self-listed merely as Ganley but of course it is as likely to be Rivada staff and/or Libertas people as they all use the same phone line . I would not have revealed the fact that they log on so much but the fact that they use the same IP to edit Ganley's Wikipedia page make it a matter of public interest to reveal this fact.

here is a full list of edits from that IP

* 17:43, 22 April 2009 (hist) (diff) Declan Ganley ‎ (→Visit of President Klaus) (top)
* 17:41, 22 April 2009 (hist) (diff) Declan Ganley ‎ (→Visit of President Klaus, Libertas and Eurosceptics)
* 17:33, 22 April 2009 (hist) (diff) Declan Ganley ‎ (→Controversy over EU Registration of Libertas)
* 17:31, 22 April 2009 (hist) (diff) Declan Ganley ‎ (→The Libertas Party and 2009 European Elections)
* 17:09, 22 April 2009 (hist) (diff) Declan Ganley ‎ (→The Libertas Party and 2009 European Elections)
* 16:39, 22 April 2009 (hist) (diff) Declan Ganley ‎ (→The Libertas Party and 2009 European Elections)
* 16:35, 22 April 2009 (hist) (diff) Declan Ganley ‎ (→Libertas)
* 16:18, 22 April 2009 (hist) (diff) Declan Ganley ‎ (→Libertas)
* 08:44, 10 July 2008 (hist) (diff) Declan Ganley ‎ (→Intimidation of Opponents)
* 08:43, 10 July 2008 (hist) (diff) Declan Ganley ‎ (→Business and political career)
* 16:29, 16 June 2008 (hist) (diff) Declan Ganley ‎ (→Business career)
* 12:57, 12 October 2007 (hist) (diff) David McWilliams ‎
* 12:41, 12 October 2007 (hist) (diff) Leviathan: Political Cabaret ‎
* 12:08, 12 October 2007 (hist) (diff) Leviathan (disambiguation) ‎

The same IP has logged onto Libertas Nein danke 180 times

magnify this user Airwire (91.189.71.XXX)

Ireland Tuam, Galway, Ireland, 180 returning visits

Date Time Type WebPage
22nd April 2009 22:10:04 Page View No referring link
peoplekorps.blogspot.com/
22nd April 2009 22:42:16 Page View No referring link
peoplekorps.blogspot.com/
22nd April 2009 22:54:25 Page View peoplekorps.blogspot.com/
peoplekorps.blogspot.com/2009/04/libertas-stunt-backfires-as-union.html#comments
23rd April 2009 11:13:29 Page View No referring link
peoplekorps.blogspot.com/
23rd April 2009 12:20:09 Page View No referring link
peoplekorps.blogspot.com/
23rd April 2009 14:53:40 Page View No referring link
peoplekorps.blogspot.com/
24th April 2009 18:25:35 Page View No referring link
peoplekorps.blogspot.com/
24th April 2009 18:29:18 Page View No referring link
peoplekorps.blogspot.com/2009/04/abortion-and

This Goes to prove that blogging truly has entered Irish politics in full effect
No wonder David Cochrane banned people korps

[toxic avenger]

Isn't that the point of Wikipedia?

Plus, you shouldn't refer to your own blog posts as 'great', pk, whether they are or not...

[Bobert]

I advise you to remove some digits of the IP from your blog and that post.

[OMahonyMunster]

I advise you to remove some digits of the IP from your blog and that post.

removed from the statcounter ip but the wikipedia listing of the edits from that same IP there is public domain so that is just the Ip users own toughie.

[Bobert]

I know but it's really just good etiquette to keep such things private.

[OMahonyMunster]

I know but it's really just good etiquette to keep such things private.

had added this above but see
see Revision history of Declan Ganley - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
that is the point of wikipedia,

if they want to get the edit history removed from Wikipedia they will have to make a request at WP Oversight on the Wikipedia site. However wikipedia frown on NPOV editing ie edit by concerned parties and are unlikely to remove that edit history. It is the stuff of news article all the time when people and celebrities edit their own pages.

it is funny that they edited sourced info ie confirmed by third party verifiable sources like The Irish Times. Wikipedia really frown on that. so I would say they have a snowballs chance in hell getting Wiki to Oversight the edits.
Toxic as Wikipedia improve they actually slam edits that are unconfirmed especially on Biogs of Living people, when living people or their employees remove sourced info it raises red flags and howls of indignation,

the edits are public domain and are obviously from Libertas at Moyne Park/Rivada/ ganley gaff

The fact that the same IP has been on LND all the time and has only edited naoise Nunn relted stuff in 20067 and david McWilliams confirms. Come on pos rep for this good laugh

[evercloserunion]

Isn't that the point of Wikipedia?

It is not the point of Wikipedia to further one's own political agenda. In order for Wikipedia to work it must be fact-based and as impartial and free of personal opinion as possible. To that extent, the removal of descriptive terms like "Eurosceptic" was a good idea because that is a loaded and inflammatory term.

Removing references to legitimate media sources and making allegations against a politician based solely on Wikipedia, however, are not kosher.

[OMahonyMunster]

It is not the point of Wikipedia to further one's own political agenda. In order for Wikipedia to work it must be fact-based and as impartial and free of personal opinion as possible. To that extent, the removal of descriptive terms like "Eurosceptic" was a good idea because that is a loaded and inflammatory term.

Removing references to legitimate media sources and making allegations against a politician based solely on Wikipedia, however, are not kosher.

removing a term is not so bad removing

Both companies are allowed to pay interest at a rate not exceeding 5 per cent on loans received from directors or other members of the companies. They are also empowered to "promote freedom of contact" and contribute funds to any body that resists interference in businesses by "any strike movement or organisation".

which was referenced by an irish Times article is poor show and show embarressment and more especially in the week that Simons was run out of SIPTU's Liberty hall. Ganley registers Libertas as a European political party - The Irish Times - Sat, Nov 01, 2008

It shows that they want to edit facts out of politics, and the truth from their own history.

We are clear here........no one doubts that the edits were done by Libertas/Ganley people or Ganley ?

[Kf]

Great post on Libertas Nein Danke that nails Ganley and or Libertas editing Declan Ganley's Wikipedia page to remove all references to the fact that Libertas support strikebreaking in the week that SIPTU banned Caroline Simons from Liberty Hall
This comes on the same day the Herald has a story about yesterday's Pat Kenny show where Simons cited Wikipedia as a source and De Burca had to tell her that people can edit Wikipedia though removing sourced information ie sourced from papers of record is frowned upon by Wikipedia administrators and editors who are trying to make the site a good encyclopedia



The same IP has logged onto Libertas Nein danke 180 times



This Goes to prove that blogging truly has entered Irish politics in full effect
No wonder David Cochrane banned people korps

Fascinating. No go find lord lucan.

[OMahonyMunster]

Fascinating. No go find lord lucan.

Don't you think that the man who says he loves the free press , the party that advocates transparency editing sourced info fronm a public website because the truth embarrasses them and they want to rewrite their own history is not of interest?

Well when a party says it is the party of openness transparency and democracy then it is of interest.
it is also of interest because here on P.ie libertas posters like cookie monster and Cochrane say thet libertas Nein Danke is a crank site yet the Ganley tuam outfit obviously visit it several times a day........waht about the Brussels office and Bonde in Holland? How often do they visit it?

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