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    Quote Originally Posted by Horace Horse View Post
    I'm going out.

    I've had enough contact with racist filth like you for one night.

    In fact, first I'm going to take a shower. Turds like you and your alter ego Tommy the Twit leave an aura, even virtually.

    Buona Sera!

    (That's Italian, for all you Mass Immigrationist Little Irelanders...)
    Oh look - a racist calls anyone who criticises his racism as racist themselves.

    Starter for ten, guys: can anyone name the racist who used to post here until banned who used to . . . reply to charges of racism by calling his critics racists?

    Racists are like turds - you have to flush them out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TommyO'Brien View Post
    A number of things have been posted on this site in the last 24 hours that are blatant breaches of incitement to hatred legislation. The may legally be US based to protect it, but posters are liable to the of the country they post in. If some of the comments here and elsewhere were reported to the gardai as breaches of the act, then a couple of p.ie posters could find themselves facing prosecution. They'd better hope for their sakes that none of the thousands of readers who read here lodges a formal complaint over their comments.
    I havn't read all of the posts here but in all honesty I havn't noticed anything like you describe it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TommyO'Brien View Post
    Oh look - a racist calls anyone who criticises his racism as racist themselves.

    Starter for ten, guys: can anyone name the racist who used to post here until banned who used to . . . reply to charges of racism by calling his critics racists?

    Racists are like turds - you have to flush them out!
    Was there only one? There seemed to be a few who resorted to that infantile tactic. Mind you all those guys blend into each other - indistinguishable in their vapidity. So remind me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trans-Siberian View Post
    This guy is the greatest political opportunist you ever met!
    No political culture-shock for him then. He's going to fit right in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marmurr1916 View Post
    No, it applies to everyone. Everyone is entitled to the presumption of innocence, whether they're politicians or not.
    Why, in this case, journalists are always looking for facts, which can damage reputation of politician?


    Quote Originally Posted by marmurr1916 View Post
    Ask whatever questions you like. I wouldn't bother asking them here though: better to ask the candidates themselves.
    Candidates can publish this information themselves on their homepages and half o this topic can scrapped
    I don’t mind to elect somebody from outside of Ireland if he/she proofed by action that he came here to work hard for prosperity of Ireland


    Quote Originally Posted by marmurr1916 View Post
    Who says it's hidden from voters? Their cases have been examined by the authorities. If you don't agree with their decisions, that's fine. But you don't get to overturn those decisions, unless you're a judge or a law-maker.
    Majority of Irish people agreed on referendum that it was loophole in Irish constitution
    If somebody used this loophole in time, he/she can stay here legally, but doesn’t deserve respect IMHO
    But everybody free to have his own opinion
    Let people decide themselves

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    Quote Originally Posted by bananarepublic.ie View Post
    Aaawh the friends, It is just unbelievable and funny. How old are you? Even i spoke with my friend over a pint about Abi Titmuss last night.

    Why dont you email/phone/text/snail mail to her. Let me help you on this
    She has right to tell me whatever she wants without any obligation
    She can put information on her personal homepage that she came here absolutely legally or she didn’t receive any state funding as soon as he got permission to work here


    In this case, it will be more difficult for her to lie
    And if she deserves respect, I promise you that will fight against any prejustece based only on her nationality

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    Quote Originally Posted by marmurr1916 View Post
    They're all here legally, if that's not enough for you, then too bad. You don't have to vote for any of them.

    BTW, in Ireland people are regarded as innocent until proven guilty. If you're going to claim that some of these candidates broke the law and lied, then it's up to you to supply proof, not the other way around.



    A list system? Not a bad idea. Allows people to vote with a greater emphasis on policies rather than personalities. Too many people elected in Ireland have had great personalities but have made lousy representatives.

    Finally, I still don't see how someone being an immigrant or not is relevant, unless their candidancy is primarily or solely about immigration issues.

    .....in Ireland people are regarded as innocent until proven guilty.

    This does not seem to apply to Irish politicians, on this board at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TommyO'Brien View Post
    This site looks like it is being overrun with racists and xenophobes these days.

    And like racists and xenophobes, they are full of opinions but short on facts.
    I will be very grateful to you if will provide us non-Irish names and ways how they entered Ireland and did they supported themselves
    So far I haven’t seen any facts from PC brigade

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    I'm so sick of the term "New Irish", are they replacing us?

    Quote Originally Posted by YesSireeeBob View Post
    I have no hard views on this myself, but it's grates me the way the way the media make such a big deal out of it, y'know we're becoming more modern.

    If an Irish person moves to China is he 'new Chinese'?


    FF hopefuls fear party is facing local poll wipeout - National News, Frontpage - Independent.ie

    The four main parties have confirmed 26 'New Irish' candidates -- Fianna Fail (9), Fine Gael (7), Labour (4) and the Greens (6). They come from countries as diverse as Zimbabwe, Pakistan, Nigeria, Russia and Poland.

    Fianna Fail has selected its first Muslim candidate, Pakistan-born Shaheen Ahmed who has been living in Ireland for 28 years and is contesting the Lucan/Palmerstown ward. "The real challenges facing my campaign will be the strength of my policies and not the background I am from. We have the opportunity to learn from the mistakes of others and to craft a community that is, instead, integrated and all-inclusive," he said.

    In Limerick, Elena Secas, a former journalist from Moldova, joined the Labour Party in 2006. She chose her party because of its "core values" and is of the opinion that voters will look for a candidate who can deliver, irrespective of nationality.

    "I think people are looking for a change, for new voices and there are some good immigrant candidates. These people came to Ireland, settled, integrated and are now facing the same problems as the rest of the community," she said

    The only "Irish" on this Island are the Native Irish people, not people that flocked here when money appeared to be flowing out of our ears.

    The only people worthy of the term "New Irish" are the next generation of Irish Kids and our diaspora children whom are being denied the right to return home.


    Rotimi Adabari who was mayor of Portlaoise was exposed as a fraudulant Asylum Seeker and because of that I would vote independent Irish National Candidates because if one foreign person has lied about how they came to the country, I cannot trust anyone else.


    TO THOSE THAT OPPOSE MASS-IMMIGRATION!

    BOYCOTT THE PARTIES FIELDING THESE CANDIDATES AND VOTE INDEPENDENT, SHOW YOUR ANGER AND PROTEST BECAUSE THIS IS A CHANCE TO HAVE YOUR VOICE HEARD AND SEND THEM A MESSAGE.

    People are fed up with this PC carry-on, this nonsense needs to stop. Irish People are losing their jobs and this will only infuriate people whom are already having their patience tested.

    We need a political system that puts the irish people first, not second, third or last like what we are seeing now.

    This sort of crap pisses me off.
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    "I'm so sick of the term "New Irish", are they replacing us?"

    They certainly are.

    They are now near or at 20% of the population.

    But here is the crucial variable. They are, unlike the Irish population, congregated in the 20-40 age group.

    That's when people have children.

    In other words, and this could be corroborated by an inspection of the records of maternity hospitals (tax-payer funded) well over 20% of babies born in Ireland are of parents who are both foreigners.

    Do the math as to where this is all heading in a decade or two!

    Are the Irish the first nation in history who acquiesced in their own destruction? Could the Mass Immigrationists, who admittedly rarely know much about history, offer historical precedents?

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