26 'New Irish' candidates to contest June 5 elections.

[corelli]

The independent nigerian candidate running in laois does not have a website but if you put in your google search ' Rotimi Adebari asylum fraudster' you will get all the information you need.

Alternatively if you want to see the calibre of his election team in 2004 in portlaoise here is a link to his main elcetion worker and canvasser.

Man gets 12 years for sick rapes of teen babysitters - National News, Frontpage - Independent.ie

And Malcolm McArthur was found in Paddy Connelly's apartment. So what? You are not responsible for your friends actions!

[ymmek]

Idont give a damn whether futuretaoiseach has or does not have a problem with legal immigrants standing for election its the law .Why does he assume his critics are well heeled? As for pete2; perhaps the reason why his kids have to attend overcrowded ramshackle classrooms is because gob********************es like him continue to vote FF.The children from the four corners of the globe do have a stake in this country but he is so warped and twisted in a jingoistic way he cannot see or understand it.Ireland is rapidly changing but to imply that our ramshackle schools are in some way to be blamed on immigrants is pure fantasy .I can remember when we had no immigrants coming to this country and our schools were cold rat infested hell holes

[pete2]

Idont give a damn whether futuretaoiseach has or does not have a problem with legal immigrants standing for election its the law .Why does he assume his critics are well heeled? As for pete2; perhaps the reason why his kids have to attend overcrowded ramshackle classrooms is because gob********************es like him continue to vote FF.The children from the four corners of the globe do have a stake in this country but he is so warped and twisted in a jingoistic way he cannot see or understand it.Ireland is rapidly changing but to imply that our ramshackle schools are in some way to be blamed on immigrants is pure fantasy .I can remember when we had no immigrants coming to this country and our schools were cold rat infested hell holes

Its not jingoism, its concern for my family, immediate community and wider community of the nation. You are personally advocating that the opportunities and access to services for all three are reduced with some being funneled to blow-in's. I disrespect you for that. Deflecting onto the rogue FF when you share their views on immigration is an infantile point score but have it if you need it. You did fail to answer my question though.

Here is why I think my kids are faced with expanding classrooms, illiterate schoolmates, and a bewildering array of immigrant children. Its because of those shoving multiculturalism & mass immigration down this nations throat. These (failed and resented all across europe) ideas were not planned for instead being unleashed on an unsuspecting public by greedy short termers and do goods like yourself. Yes Ireland is "rapidly changing" but thanks entirely to your kind who may as well have dropped an 'ethnic bomb' on the island for all the good this 'rapid change' has brought. Nobody needs a crystal ball to see where we are going, just cast an eye across the fragmented ghettos of the continent for a clue.

You of course see it differently, but then you are blinkered to the long term consequences of your bogus ideas by political prejudice and racist contempt for your own kind correct? I can only hope when you feel a responsibility to children of your own you will realise your tragic, wrongheaded mistake. In the meantime adults who have seen the effects and know where their responsibilities lie must act to end these disastrous public policies.

Voting in candidates that are here as a result of these policies will not lead to a change for the better.

[FutureTaoiseach]

Idont give a damn whether futuretaoiseach has or does not have a problem with legal immigrants standing for election its the law .Why does he assume his critics are well heeled? As for pete2; perhaps the reason why his kids have to attend overcrowded ramshackle classrooms is because gob********************es like him continue to vote FF.The children from the four corners of the globe do have a stake in this country but he is so warped and twisted in a jingoistic way he cannot see or understand it.Ireland is rapidly changing but to imply that our ramshackle schools are in some way to be blamed on immigrants is pure fantasy .I can remember when we had no immigrants coming to this country and our schools were cold rat infested hell holes

Perhaps Pete2 is not blaming the immigrants as people, but rather uncontrolled immigration as a policy. There is a difference, you know. Population-pressures have to be planned ahead for in terms of schools, hospitals etc. but for that planning to be successful in meeting the population-pressures, the levels of immigration have to be controlled. It is the policies most of us concerned with immigration are criticising - not the immigrants themselves (except a minority of them who scam the system with forged documents like you know who). I hope the Irish people's right to school places, hospital-beds, and jobs are not sacrificed on the altar of bending over backwards to allow in people we cannot provide for in terms of hospital beds, school places, or jobs. I think it would be a very unwise politician that sought to create in this recession-hit economy an addition of tens of thousands more people on the dole and an even bigger deficit that would result. It is the politicians I am blaming - not the immigrants.

[pete2]

Perhaps Pete2 is not blaming the immigrants as people, but rather uncontrolled immigration as a policy. There is a difference, you know. Population-pressures have to be planned ahead for in terms of schools, hospitals etc. but for that planning to be successful in meeting the population-pressures, the levels of immigration have to be controlled. It is the policies most of us concerned with immigration are criticising - not the immigrants themselves (except a minority of them who scam the system with forged documents like you know who). I hope the Irish people's right to school places, hospital-beds, and jobs are not sacrificed on the altar of bending over backwards to allow in people we cannot provide for in terms of hospital beds, school places, or jobs. I think it would be a very unwise politician that sought to create in this recession-hit economy an addition of tens of thousands more people on the dole and an even bigger deficit that would result. It is the politicians I am blaming - not the immigrants.

You make my point for me, and so much more eloquently, thank you.

[bormotello]

I disagree IrishTom. You have to remember that asylum-seekers and all foreign-nationals are entitled to vote in local elections, which is why ethnic-minorities do better in them.

I disagree with FT.
There are too many different communities and most of them don’t like each other.
Polish don’t like Nigerians, Russians don’t like Romanians, Indians don’t like Pakistanis etc. Ethnic candidates can get support from people of their own nationalities, but not from another ethnic groups.

I think that there are 4 main reasons, why those people have been chosen by main political parties.
1) Some of those ethnic candidates are very good liars. There is no reason to go here and claim asylum, if you cannot lie properly. You can buy a “story”, from professional asylum storywriters, but if you cannot support your story, court will discover it immediately. You need to have a talent for improvisation. In majority of cases, court will not ever seek for evidences. It took 4 years for PI, until court started to look for papers, which are supporting her “story”. Plus, many of them have nice personality. They know how to force sympathy for them, so everybody will believe them. They can speak for hours and tell nothing. They can listen you for as long as you want. They will always agree with you. They will tell a lot of scary stories, how difficult their life is.
I have to admit, it is a real talent and you cannot get it from books.
2) Big proportion of those candidates is not working. They have plenty of time, while state pays benefits for them. They can afford to walk between houses and tell to people, how good they are. They can afford to go party meetings. Because you cannot become rich on welfare, there is only one way to improve your financial situation and this way is to go to politic. Main advantage is that you will not have boss, which will look after you. There is no deadlines, which you have to meet. As soon as voters elected candidates, people will not have any control over politicians. Quick reports will be enough.
All what local politician has to do, is to attend meetings and sometimes see local people. If they will not do what they promised, they always will blame other parties.
It is not hard job from 9 to 6.
3) Main parties want to show to immigrants that they are care about them. I don’t know which party has polish candidate, but Polish people will see that this party is good for them and will give votes for Irish candidates of this party in other constituencies.
4) Non-national candidates will have immunity from criticism in Irish media. Any criticism can be converted into “racism” and must be withdrawn.

[DaBrow]

I disagree with FT.
There are too many different communities and most of them don’t like each other.
Polish don’t like Nigerians, Russians don’t like Romanians, Indians don’t like Pakistanis etc. Ethnic candidates can get support from people of their own nationalities, but not from another ethnic groups.

I think that there are 4 main reasons, why those people have been chosen by main political parties.
1) Some of those ethnic candidates are very good liars. There is no reason to go here and claim asylum, if you cannot lie properly. You can buy a “story”, from professional asylum storywriters, but if you cannot support your story, court will discover it immediately. You need to have a talent for improvisation. In majority of cases, court will not ever seek for evidences. It took 4 years for PI, until court started to look for papers, which are supporting her “story”. Plus, many of them have nice personality. They know how to force sympathy for them, so everybody will believe them. They can speak for hours and tell nothing. They can listen you for as long as you want. They will always agree with you. They will tell a lot of scary stories, how difficult their life is.
I have to admit, it is a real talent and you cannot get it from books.
2) Big proportion of those candidates is not working. They have plenty of time, while state pays benefits for them. They can afford to walk between houses and tell to people, how good they are. They can afford to go party meetings. Because you cannot become rich on welfare, there is only one way to improve your financial situation and this way is to go to politic. Main advantage is that you will not have boss, which will look after you. There is no deadlines, which you have to meet. As soon as voters elected candidates, people will not have any control over politicians. Quick reports will be enough.
All what local politician has to do, is to attend meetings and sometimes see local people. If they will not do what they promised, they always will blame other parties.
It is not hard job from 9 to 6.
3) Main parties want to show to immigrants that they are care about them. I don’t know which party has polish candidate, but Polish people will see that this party is good for them and will give votes for Irish candidates of this party in other constituencies.
4) Non-national candidates will have immunity from criticism in Irish media. Any criticism can be converted into “racism” and must be withdrawn.

Couldn't have said it any better

We will see cluster voting, meaning that non-nationals will be voted in not because of policies but by their own countrymen regardless of what they are proposing.

I've seen this happen in Britain, God Help us.

[Trans-Siberian]

And Malcolm McArthur was found in Paddy Connelly's apartment. So what? You are not responsible for your friends actions!

Thats true.I'm not saying this councillor had anything to do with this mans actions.Im sure he was hoorified by them. But he has been asked to clarifiy whether he has still any contact with this man and of yet has failed to do so.
If he clarifies this then this issue would not be coming up.

[IrishTom]

even Legal immigration needs to be capped annualy, we have no real immigration policy, at the moment 14% of Irelands population are non nationals, that is after only 10-12 years mass immigration, this is not sustainable, bertie ahern himself said in 2007 that he couldnt invisage Irelands immigrants going beyond 10% he said it would be unsustainable.
it is now 14% were do we draw the line, at the moment it looks like by 2050 the irish will be an ethnic minority in there own land, there are over 100,000 chinese in ireland but only 14,000 are here legaly supposed to be on student visas.
how long can this mass immigration madness go on, we dont have the jobs to support them, we dont have the public finances to support them, it is totaly unsustainable.

[ymmek]

Numerous posts suggesting immigrants are liars,untrustworthy,guilty by association.Are the posters not talking about the FF party? Ray Bourke Mcsharry Lawler Ahearn.Sounds like it to me The liars ,cheats and con men mentioned are all irish and could give lessons in graft and corruption.